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From: Viacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Removing GFP_NOFS
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2024 13:13:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2EEB5F76-1D68-4B17-82B6-4A459D91E4BF@dubeyko.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZZcgXI46AinlcBDP@casper.infradead.org>



> On Jan 5, 2024, at 12:17 AM, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> This is primarily a _FILESYSTEM_ track topic.  All the work has already
> been done on the MM side; the FS people need to do their part.  It could
> be a joint session, but I'm not sure there's much for the MM people
> to say.
> 
> There are situations where we need to allocate memory, but cannot call
> into the filesystem to free memory.  Generally this is because we're
> holding a lock or we've started a transaction, and attempting to write
> out dirty folios to reclaim memory would result in a deadlock.
> 
> The old way to solve this problem is to specify GFP_NOFS when allocating
> memory.  This conveys little information about what is being protected
> against, and so it is hard to know when it might be safe to remove.
> It's also a reflex -- many filesystem authors use GFP_NOFS by default
> even when they could use GFP_KERNEL because there's no risk of deadlock.
> 
> The new way is to use the scoped APIs -- memalloc_nofs_save() and
> memalloc_nofs_restore().  These should be called when we start a
> transaction or take a lock that would cause a GFP_KERNEL allocation to
> deadlock.  Then just use GFP_KERNEL as normal.  The memory allocators
> can see the nofs situation is in effect and will not call back into
> the filesystem.
> 
> This results in better code within your filesystem as you don't need to
> pass around gfp flags as much, and can lead to better performance from
> the memory allocators as GFP_NOFS will not be used unnecessarily.
> 
> The memalloc_nofs APIs were introduced in May 2017, but we still have
> over 1000 uses of GFP_NOFS in fs/ today (and 200 outside fs/, which is
> really sad).  This session is for filesystem developers to talk about
> what they need to do to fix up their own filesystem, or share stories
> about how they made their filesystem better by adopting the new APIs.
> 

Many file systems are still heavily using GFP_NOFS for kmalloc and
kmem_cache_alloc family methods even if  memalloc_nofs_save() and
memalloc_nofs_restore() pair is used too. But I can see that GFP_NOFS
is used in radix_tree_preload(), bio_alloc(), posix_acl_clone(),
sb_issue_zeroout, sb_issue_discard(), alloc_inode_sb(), blkdev_issue_zeroout(),
blkdev_issue_secure_erase(), blkdev_zone_mgmt(), etc.

Would it be safe to switch on memalloc_nofs_save()/memalloc_nofs_restore() for
all possible cases? Any potential issues or downsides?

Thanks,
Slava.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-05 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-04 21:17 Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-05 10:13 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko [this message]
2024-01-05 10:26   ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2024-01-05 14:17     ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2024-01-05 14:35   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-01-05 10:57 ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2024-01-08 11:47   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-01-08 17:39     ` David Sterba
2024-01-09  7:43       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-01-09 22:23         ` Dave Chinner
2024-01-09 15:47     ` Luis Henriques
2024-01-09 18:04       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2024-01-08  6:39 ` Dave Chinner
2024-01-09  4:47 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-08 16:02   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-02-08 17:33     ` Michal Hocko
2024-02-08 19:55       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-02-08 22:45         ` Kent Overstreet
2024-02-12  1:20         ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-12  2:06           ` Kent Overstreet
2024-02-12  4:35             ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-12 19:30               ` Kent Overstreet
2024-02-12 22:07                 ` Dave Chinner
2024-01-09 22:44 ` Dave Chinner

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