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From: Henry Willard <henry.willard@oracle.com>
To: Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, kstewart@linuxfoundation.org,
	zi.yan@cs.rutgers.edu, pombredanne@nexb.com, aarcange@redhat.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, jglisse@redhat.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: numa: Do not trap faults on shared data section pages.
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:06:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2BEFC6DE-7A47-4CB9-AAE5-CEF70453B46F@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1801171219270.23209@nuc-kabylake>



> On Jan 17, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, Mel Gorman wrote:
> 
>> My main source of discomfort is the fact that this is permanent as two
>> processes perfectly isolated but with a suitably shared COW mapping
>> will never migrate the data. A potential improvement to get the reported
>> bandwidth up in the test program would be to skip the rest of the VMA if
>> page_mapcount != 1 in a COW mapping as it would be reasonable to assume
>> the remaining pages in the VMA are also affected and the scan is wasteful.
>> There are counter-examples to this but I suspect that the full VMA being
>> shared is the common case. Whether you do that or not;
> 
> Same concern here. Typically CAP_SYS_NICE will bypass the check that the
> page is only mapped to a single process and the check looks exactly like
> the ones for manual migration. Using CAP_SYS_NICE would be surprising
> here since autonuma is not triggered by the currently running process.
> 
> Can we configure this somehow via sysfs?

If I understand the code correctly, CAP_SYS_NICE allows MPOL_MF_MOVE_ALL to be set with mbind() or used with move_pages(). CAP_SYS_NICE also causes migrate_pages() to behave as if MPOL_MF_MOVE_ALL were specified. There are checks requiring either MPOL_MF_MOVE_ALL or page_mapcount(page) == 1. The normal case does not call change_prot_numa(). change_prot_numa() is only called when MPOL_MF_LAZY is specified, and at the moment MPOL_MF_LAZY is not recognized as a valid flag. It looks to me that as things stand now, change_prot_numa() is only called from task_numa_work().

If MPOL_MF_LAZY were allowed and specified things would not work correctly. change_pte_range() is unaware of and can’t honor the difference between MPOL_MF_MOVE_ALL and MPOL_MF_MOVE. 

For the case of auto numa balancing, it may be undesirable for shared pages to be migrated whether they are also copy-on-write or not. The copy-on-write test was added to restrict the effect of the patch to the specific situation we observed. Perhaps I should remove it, I don’t understand why it would be desirable to modify the behavior via sysfs.

Thanks,
Henry
> 
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-19  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-16 19:28 [PATCH] mm: numa: numa balancing performance problem Henry Willard
2018-01-16 19:28 ` [PATCH] mm: numa: Do not trap faults on shared data section pages Henry Willard
2018-01-16 21:26   ` Mel Gorman
2018-01-17  0:45     ` Henry Willard
2018-01-17 18:23     ` Christopher Lameter
2018-01-19  1:06       ` Henry Willard [this message]
2018-01-20  2:12         ` Christopher Lameter
2018-01-23  0:41           ` Henry Willard

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