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From: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>
To: Edward Chron <echron@arista.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ivan Delalande <colona@arista.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] OOM Debug print selection and additional information
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:32:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2A1D8FFC-9E9E-4D86-9A0E-28F8263CC508@lca.pw> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM3twVSdxJaEpmWXu2m_F1MxFMB58C6=LWWCDYNn5yT3Ns+0sQ@mail.gmail.com>



> On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Edward Chron <echron@arista.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:50 PM Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Edward Chron <echron@arista.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:40 AM Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2019-08-26 at 12:36 -0700, Edward Chron wrote:
>>>> This patch series provides code that works as a debug option through
>>>> debugfs to provide additional controls to limit how much information
>>>> gets printed when an OOM event occurs and or optionally print additional
>>>> information about slab usage, vmalloc allocations, user process memory
>>>> usage, the number of processes / tasks and some summary information
>>>> about these tasks (number runable, i/o wait), system information
>>>> (#CPUs, Kernel Version and other useful state of the system),
>>>> ARP and ND Cache entry information.
>>>> 
>>>> Linux OOM can optionally provide a lot of information, what's missing?
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Linux provides a variety of detailed information when an OOM event occurs
>>>> but has limited options to control how much output is produced. The
>>>> system related information is produced unconditionally and limited per
>>>> user process information is produced as a default enabled option. The
>>>> per user process information may be disabled.
>>>> 
>>>> Slab usage information was recently added and is output only if slab
>>>> usage exceeds user memory usage.
>>>> 
>>>> Many OOM events are due to user application memory usage sometimes in
>>>> combination with the use of kernel resource usage that exceeds what is
>>>> expected memory usage. Detailed information about how memory was being
>>>> used when the event occurred may be required to identify the root cause
>>>> of the OOM event.
>>>> 
>>>> However, some environments are very large and printing all of the
>>>> information about processes, slabs and or vmalloc allocations may
>>>> not be feasible. For other environments printing as much information
>>>> about these as possible may be needed to root cause OOM events.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> For more in-depth analysis of OOM events, people could use kdump to save a
>>> vmcore by setting "panic_on_oom", and then use the crash utility to analysis the
>>> vmcore which contains pretty much all the information you need.
>>> 
>>> Certainly, this is the ideal. A full system dump would give you the maximum amount of
>>> information.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately some environments may lack space to store the dump,
>> 
>> Kdump usually also support dumping to a remote target via NFS, SSH etc
>> 
>>> let alone the time to dump the storage contents and restart the system. Some
>> 
>> There is also “makedumpfile” that could compress and filter unwanted memory to reduce
>> the vmcore size and speed up the dumping process by utilizing multi-threads.
>> 
>>> systems can take many minutes to fully boot up, to reset and reinitialize all the
>>> devices. So unfortunately this is not always an option, and we need an OOM Report.
>> 
>> I am not sure how the system needs some minutes to reboot would be relevant  for the
>> discussion here. The idea is to save a vmcore and it can be analyzed offline even on
>> another system as long as it having a matching “vmlinux.".
>> 
>> 
> 
> If selecting a dump on an OOM event doesn't reboot the system and if
> it runs fast enough such
> that it doesn't slow processing enough to appreciably effect the
> system's responsiveness then
> then it would be ideal solution. For some it would be over kill but
> since it is an option it is a
> choice to consider or not.

It sounds like you are looking for more of this,

https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/tools/oomkill.py



  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-28  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-26 19:36 Edward Chron
2019-08-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm/oom_debug: Add Debug base code Edward Chron
2019-08-27 13:28   ` kbuild test robot
2019-08-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm/oom_debug: Add System State Summary Edward Chron
2019-08-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm/oom_debug: Add Tasks Summary Edward Chron
2019-08-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm/oom_debug: Add ARP and ND Table Summary usage Edward Chron
2019-08-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm/oom_debug: Add Select Slabs Print Edward Chron
2019-08-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm/oom_debug: Add Select Vmalloc Entries Print Edward Chron
2019-08-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm/oom_debug: Add Select Process " Edward Chron
2019-08-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm/oom_debug: Add Slab Select Always Print Enable Edward Chron
2019-08-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm/oom_debug: Add Enhanced Slab Print Information Edward Chron
2019-08-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm/oom_debug: Add Enhanced Process " Edward Chron
2019-08-28  0:21   ` kbuild test robot
2019-08-27  7:15 ` [PATCH 00/10] OOM Debug print selection and additional information Michal Hocko
     [not found]   ` <5768394f-1511-5b00-f715-c0c5446a2d2a@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
2019-08-27 10:38     ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-28  1:07   ` Edward Chron
2019-08-28  6:59     ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-28 19:46       ` Edward Chron
2019-08-28 20:18         ` Qian Cai
2019-08-28 21:17           ` Edward Chron
2019-08-28 21:34             ` Qian Cai
2019-08-29  7:11         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]           ` <297cf049-d92e-f13a-1386-403553d86401@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
2019-08-29 11:56             ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-29 15:03               ` Edward Chron
2019-08-29 15:42                 ` Qian Cai
2019-08-29 16:09                   ` Edward Chron
2019-08-29 18:44                     ` Qian Cai
2019-08-29 22:41                       ` Edward Chron
2019-08-29 16:17                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-29 16:35                   ` Edward Chron
2019-08-29 15:20           ` Edward Chron
2019-08-27 12:40 ` Qian Cai
2019-08-28  0:23   ` Edward Chron
2019-08-28  0:50     ` Qian Cai
2019-08-28  1:13       ` Edward Chron
2019-08-28  1:32         ` Qian Cai [this message]
2019-08-28  2:47           ` Edward Chron
2019-08-28  7:08             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]               ` <2e816b05-7b5b-4bc0-8d38-8415daea920d@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
2019-08-28 10:32                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                   ` <5db2d2bd-645b-8967-849a-0d1de5861742@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
2019-08-28 11:12                     ` Michal Hocko

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