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From: kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com
To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	menage@google.com, xemul@openvz.org, yamamoto@valinux.co.jp
Subject: Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2] memcg: res_counter hierarchy
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:02:47 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <29463997.1213012967896.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <484D07F0.6020407@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

----- Original Message -----
way, breaks limit semantics.
>>>
>> Not easy to use in my point of view. Can we use 'share' in proper way 
>> on no-swap machine ?
>> 
>
>Not sure I understand your question. Share represents the share of available
>resources.
>

If no swap, you cannot reclaim anonymous pages and shared memory.
Then, the kernel has to abandon any kinds of auto-balancing somewhere.
(just an example. Things will be more complicated when we consinder
 mlocked pages and swap-resource-controller.)


>> yield() after callback() means that res_counter's state will be
>> far different from the state after callback.
>> So, we have to yield before call back and check res_coutner sooner.
>> 
>
>But does yield() get us any guarantees of seeing the state change?
>
Hmm, myabe my explanation is bad.

in following sequence
   1.callback()
   2.yield()
   3.check usage again
Elapsed time between 1->3 is big.

in following
   1.yield()
   2.callback()
   3.check usage again
Elapsed time between 2->3 is small.

There is an option to implement "changing limit grarually"

Thanks,
-Kame









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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-09 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-04  4:58 [RFC][PATCH 0/2] memcg: hierarchy support (v3) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-04  5:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] memcg: res_counter hierarchy KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-04  6:54   ` Li Zefan
2008-06-04  7:03     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-04  7:20   ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-06-04  7:32     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-04  8:59   ` Paul Menage
2008-06-04  9:18     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-09  9:48   ` Balbir Singh
2008-06-09 10:20     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-09 10:37       ` Balbir Singh
2008-06-09 12:02       ` kamezawa.hiroyu [this message]
2008-06-11 23:24   ` Randy Dunlap
2008-06-12  4:59     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-04  5:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] memcg: hardwall hierarhcy for memcg KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-04  6:42   ` Li Zefan
2008-06-04  6:54     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-04  8:59   ` Paul Menage
2008-06-04  9:26     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-04 12:53       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-04 12:32   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-06-05  0:04     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-09 10:56   ` Balbir Singh
2008-06-09 12:09   ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-06-11 23:24   ` Randy Dunlap
2008-06-12  5:00     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-04  8:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] memcg: hierarchy support (v3) Paul Menage
2008-06-04  9:15   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-04  9:15     ` Paul Menage
2008-06-04  9:31       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-09  9:30 ` Balbir Singh
2008-06-09  9:55   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-06-09 10:33     ` Balbir Singh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-02  6:16 [RFC][PATCH 1/2] memcg: res_counter hierarchy Balbir Singh
2008-05-31 17:18 ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-31 11:20   ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-30 22:20     ` Balbir Singh
2008-05-30  1:43       ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] memcg: simple hierarchy (v2) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-05-30  1:45         ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] memcg: res_counter hierarchy KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-05-31  1:59           ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-05-31 14:47             ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-06-01  0:35               ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-06-02  9:48                 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-06-02  9:52           ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-06-02  2:15 YAMAMOTO Takashi

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