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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@cpushare.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] atomic highmem kmap page pinning
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:30:21 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28c262360903041630u44bd8993ve7c0ea97c5c82e2e@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090305092534.740ee3c9.minchan.kim@barrios-desktop>

It seems Andrea's mail address is changed.
I will resend new Andrea's mail address.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
> - Show quoted text -
> On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:46:33 +0000
> Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:07:17AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> > On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:26:00 -0500 (EST)
>> > Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:58:13 -0500 (EST)
>> > > > Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I've implemented highmem for ARM.  Yes, some ARM machines do have lots
>> > > > > of memory...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The problem is that most ARM machines have a non IO coherent cache,
>> > > > > meaning that the dma_map_* set of functions must clean and/or invalidate
>> > > > > the affected memory manually.  And because the majority of those
>> > > > > machines have a VIVT cache, the cache maintenance operations must be
>> > > > > performed using virtual addresses.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > In dma_map_page(), an highmem pages could still be mapped and cached
>> > > > > even after kunmap() was called on it.  As long as highmem pages are
>> > > > > mapped, page_address(page) is non null and we can use that to
>> > > > > synchronize the cache.
>> > > > > It is unlikely but still possible for kmap() to race and recycle the
>> > > > > obtained virtual address above, and use it for another page though.  In
>> > > > > that case, the new mapping could end up with dirty cache lines for
>> > > > > another page, and the unsuspecting cache invalidation loop in
>> > > > > dma_map_page() won't notice resulting in data loss.  Hence the need for
>> > > > > some kind of kmap page pinning which can be used in any context,
>> > > > > including IRQ context.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> > > > > This is a RFC patch implementing the necessary part in the core code, as
>> > > > > suggested by RMK. Please comment.
>> > > >
>> > > > I am not sure if i understand your concern totally.
>> > > > I can understand it can be recycled. but Why is it racing ?
>> > >
>> > > Suppose this sequence of events:
>> > >
>> > >   - dma_map_page(..., DMA_FROM_DEVICE) is called on a highmem page.
>> > >
>> > >   -->     - vaddr = page_address(page) is non null. In this case
>> > >             it is likely that the page has valid cache lines
>> > >             associated with vaddr. Remember that the cache is VIVT.
>> > >
>> > >           -->     - for (i = vaddr; i < vaddr + PAGE_SIZE; i += 32)
>> > >                           invalidate_cache_line(i);
>> > >
>> > >   *** preemption occurs in the middle of the loop above ***
>> > >
>> > >   - kmap_high() is called for a different page.
>> > >
>> > >   -->     - last_pkmap_nr wraps to zero and flush_all_zero_pkmaps()
>> > >             is called.  The pkmap_count value for the page passed
>> > >             to dma_map_page() above happens to be 1, so it is
>> > >             unmapped.  But prior to that, flush_cache_kmaps()
>> > >             cleared the cache for it.  So far so good.
>> >
>> > Thanks for kind explanation.:)
>> >
>> > I thought kmap and dma_map_page usage was following.
>> >
>> > kmap(page);
>> > ...
>> > dma_map_page(...)
>> >   invalidate_cache_line
>> >
>> > kunmap(page);
>>
>> No, that's not the usage at all.  kmap() can't be called from the
>> contexts which dma_map_page() is called from (iow, IRQ contexts as
>> pointed out in the paragraph I underlined above.)
>>
>> We're talking about dma_map_page() _internally_ calling kmap_get_page()
>> to _atomically_ and _safely_ check whether the page was kmapped.  If
>> it was kmapped, we need to pin the page and return its currently mapped
>> address for cache handling and then release that reference.
>
> Thanks, Russel.
> I see. That was thing I missed. :)
>
>> None of the existing kmap support comes anywhere near to providing a
>> mechanism for this because it can't be used in the contexts under which
>> dma_map_page() is called.
>
> Right.
>
>> If we could do it with existing interfaces, we wouldn't need a new
>> interface would we?
>
> OK.
> As previous said, I don't like kmap_high's irq disable.
> It's already used in many place. so irq'disable effect might be rather big.
>
> How about new interface which is like KM_IRQ's kmap_atomic slot
>  with serializing kmap_atomic_lock?
>
> Let's Cced other experts.
>
> --
> Kinds Regards
> Minchan Kim
>



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Kinds regards,
Minchan Kim

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-05  0:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-04  5:58 Nicolas Pitre
2009-03-04  7:39 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-04  8:14 ` Minchan Kim
2009-03-04 17:26   ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-03-04 23:07     ` Minchan Kim
2009-03-04 23:46       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-03-05  0:25         ` Minchan Kim
2009-03-05  0:30           ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2009-03-05  2:37       ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-03-05  4:20         ` Minchan Kim
2009-03-05  4:57           ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-03-05 22:23             ` Minchan Kim
2009-03-05 22:59               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-03-05 23:14                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-03-07 22:28                   ` Nicolas Pitre

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