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From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Teng Hu <huteng.ht@bytedance.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH] mm: page_alloc: don't allocate page from memoryless nodes
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 20:09:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27da47d9-2daf-c580-66e2-cae55f53e784@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a09bfe3a-87e4-f8ce-89bb-c5fde8cc33c9@redhat.com>



On 2023/2/14 19:58, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 14.02.23 12:48, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 14.02.23 12:44, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>> (added x86 folks)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 12:29:42PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 14.02.23 12:26, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>> On 2023/2/14 19:22, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TBH, this is the first time I hear of NODE_MIN_SIZE and it seems 
>>>>>> to be a
>>>>>> pretty x86 specific thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we sure we want to get NODE_MIN_SIZE involved?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe add an arch_xxx() to handle it?
>>>>
>>>> I still haven't figured out what we want to achieve with 
>>>> NODE_MIN_SIZE at
>>>> all. It smells like an arch-specific hack looking at
>>>>
>>>> "Don't confuse VM with a node that doesn't have the minimum amount of
>>>> memory"
>>>>
>>>> Why shouldn't mm-core deal with that?
>>>
>>> Well, a node with <4M RAM is not very useful and bears all the 
>>> overhead of
>>> an extra live node.
>>
>> And totally not with 4.1M, haha.
>>
>> I really like the "Might fix boot" in the commit description.
>>
>>>
>>> But, hey, why won't we just drop that '< NODE_MIN_SIZE' and let 
>>> people with
>>> weird HW configurations just live with this?
>>
>>
>> ;)
>>
> 
> Actually, remembering 09f49dca570a ("mm: handle uninitialized numa nodes 
> gracefully"), this might be the right thing to do. That commit assumes 
> that all offline nodes would get the pgdat allocated in 
> free_area_init(). So that we end up with an allocated pgdat for all 
Can also See commit 1ca75fa7f19d ("arch/x86/mm/numa: Do not initialize 
nodes twice"). The commit message explains the initialization process
more clearly, it may be helpful. :)

> possible nodes. The reasoning IIRC was that we don't care about wasting 
> memory in weird VM setups.
> 
> CCing Michal.
> 

-- 
Thanks,
Qi


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-14 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-12 11:03 Qi Zheng
2023-02-13  8:47 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-02-13 11:00   ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-14  8:42     ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-02-14  9:17       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14  9:43         ` Mike Rapoport
     [not found]           ` <67240e55-af49-f20a-2b4b-b7d574cd910d@gmail.com>
2023-02-14 11:22             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 11:26               ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-14 11:29                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 11:38                   ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-14 11:44                   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-14 11:48                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 11:58                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 12:09                         ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2023-02-14 13:38                         ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-15  9:30                           ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-15  9:41                             ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-15 10:08                               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-15 10:19                                 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-15  9:43                             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-15 10:04                               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-15 10:11                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-15 16:55                             ` Michal Hocko
2023-10-16  4:09                             ` Qi Zheng
2023-10-17  6:12                               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-14 12:33                     ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-14 12:46                     ` Mike Rapoport
     [not found]   ` <Y+tQDN/TmdTPFFR6@kernel.org>
2023-02-14 10:33     ` Qi Zheng

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