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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Liam Howlett <liam.howlett@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mmotm] mempolicy: mbind_range() set_policy() after vma_merge()
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 13:47:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27b91006-94f4-2dcb-e796-62e4e553d018@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <173fbbd0-d631-ede7-4641-39ead6531d9@google.com>

On 3/11/22 09:54, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 3/8/22 22:32, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>> > On Tue, 8 Mar 2022, Liam Howlett wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I must be missing something.  If mpol_equal() isn't sufficient to ensure
>> >> we don't need to set_policy(), then why are the other vma_merge() cases
>> >> okay - such as madvise_update_vma() and mlock_fixup()?  Won't the mem
>> >> policy change in the same way in these cases?
>> > 
>> > mlock provides a good example to compare.
>> > 
>> > Mlocking pages is the business of mlock(), and mlock_fixup() needs to
>> > attend to mm->locked_vm, and calling something to mark as PageMlocked
>> > those pages already in the area now covered by mlock.  But it doesn't
>> > need to worry about set_policy(), that's not its business, and is
>> > unaffected by mlock changes (though merging of vmas needs mpol_equal()
>> > to check that policy is the same, and merging and splitting of vmas
>> > need to maintain the refcount of the shared policy if any).
>> > 
>> > Whereas NUMA mempolicy is the business of mbind(), and mbind_range()
>> > needs to attend to vma->vm_policy, and if it's a mapping of something
>> > supporting a shared set_policy(), call that to establish the new range
>> > on the object mapped.  But it doesn't need to worry about mm->locked_vm
>> > or whether pages are Mlocked, that's not its business, and is unaffected
>> > by mbind changes (though merging of vmas needs to check VM_LOCKED among
>> > other flags to check that they are the same before it can merge).
>> 
>> So if I understand correctly, we have case 8 of vma_merge():
>> 
>>     AAAA
>> PPPPNNNNXXXX
>> becomes
>> PPPPXXXXXXXX 8
>> 
>> N is vma with some old policy different from new_pol
>> A is the range where we change to new policy new_pol, which happens to be
>> the same as existing policy of X
>> Thus vma_merge() extends vma X to include range A - the vma N
>> vma_merge() succeeds because it's passed new_pol to do the compatibility
>> checks (although N still has the previous policy)
> 
> I *think* you have it the wrong way round there: my reading is that
> this vma_merge() case 8 was correctly handled before, because in its
> case !mpol_equal(vma_policy(vma), new_pol): I think case 8 was being
> handled correctly, but the other cases were not.
> 
> Or was the comment even correct to reference case 8 especially?

I think it wasn't, but...

> I'm afraid bringing it all back to mind is a bit of an effort: I won't
> stake my life on it, perhaps I'm the one who has it the wrong way round.

... same here.

Importantly I believe your patch is the correct solution.

>> 
>> Before Hugh's patch we would then realize "oh X already has new_pol, nothing
>> to do". Note that this AFAICS doesn't affect actual pages migration between
>> nodes, because that happens outside of mbind_range(). But it causes us to
>> skip vma_replace_policy(), which causes us to skip vm_ops->set_policy, where
>> tmpfs does something important (we could maybe argue that Hugh didn't
>> specify the user visible effects of this exactly enough :) what is "leaving
>> the new mbind unenforced" - are pages not migrated in this case?).
> 
> Went back to check the original (internal) report:
> mbind MPOL_BIND on tmpfs can result in allocations on the wrong node.
> And it was a genuine practical case, though the finder was kind enough
> to distil it down to a minimal sequence (and correctly suggest the fix).
> 
> The user visible effect was that the pages got allocated on the local node
> (happened to be 0), after the mbind() caller had specifically asked for
> them to be allocated on node 1.  There was not any page migration involved
> in the case reported: the pages simply got allocated on the wrong node.

That's useful, thanks.

> And yes, on this patch I should have asked for a
> Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org>

Agree. Andrew can add it, and also the user visible effects above?

Thanks,
Vlastimil

>> 
>> HTH (if I'm right),
>> Vlastimil



      reply	other threads:[~2022-03-11 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-04  4:36 Hugh Dickins
2022-03-04 18:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2022-03-04 22:33   ` Hugh Dickins
2022-03-04 18:49 ` Liam Howlett
2022-03-04 19:05   ` Liam Howlett
2022-03-04 22:48     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-03-05  2:00       ` Liam Howlett
2022-03-05  2:28         ` Hugh Dickins
2022-03-08 16:05           ` Liam Howlett
2022-03-08 21:32             ` Hugh Dickins
2022-03-09 12:41               ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-03-09 19:10                 ` Liam Howlett
2022-03-11  9:33                   ` Hugh Dickins
2022-03-11  8:54                 ` Hugh Dickins
2022-03-11 12:47                   ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]

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