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From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Samuel Holland <samuel.holland@sifive.com>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <pjw@kernel.org>,
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	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
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	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>,
	Emil Renner Berthing <kernel@esmil.dk>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
	Dwaipayan Ray <dwaipayanray1@gmail.com>,
	Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/22] checkpatch: Warn on page table access without accessors
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 20:17:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <273b638e-8251-4faf-929a-87432a48abdc@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a6e7a571-91d2-4e66-bc86-ba30f624294b@sifive.com>

On 13.11.25 03:36, Samuel Holland wrote:
> On 2025-11-12 8:21 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
>> On Wed, 2025-11-12 at 17:45 -0800, Samuel Holland wrote:
>>> Architectures may have special rules for accessing the hardware page
>>> tables (for example, atomicity/ordering requirements), so the generic MM
>>> code provides the pXXp_get() and set_pXX() hooks for architectures to
>>> implement. These accessor functions are often omitted where a raw
>>> pointer dereference is believed to be safe (i.e. race-free). However,
>>> RISC-V needs to use these hooks to rewrite the page table values at
>>> read/write time on some platforms. A raw pointer dereference will no
>>> longer produce the correct value on those platforms, so the generic code
>>> must always use the accessor functions.
>> []
>>> diff --git a/scripts/checkpatch.pl b/scripts/checkpatch.pl
>> []
>>> @@ -7721,6 +7721,13 @@ sub process {
>>>   				ERROR("MISSING_SENTINEL", "missing sentinel in ID array\n" . "$here\n$stat\n");
>>>   			}
>>>   		}
>>> +
>>> +# check for raw dereferences of hardware page table pointers
>>> +		if ($realfile !~ m@^arch/@ &&
>>> +		    $line =~ /(?<!pte_t |p[mu4g]d_t |izeof\()\*\(?(vmf(\.|->))?(pte|p[mu4g]d)p?\b/) {
>>> +			WARN("PAGE_TABLE_ACCESSORS",
>>> +			     "Use $3p_get()/set_$3() instead of dereferencing page table pointers\n" . $herecurr);
>>> +		}
>>>   	}
>>
>> Seems like a lot of matches
>>
>> $ git grep -P '(?<!pte_t |p[mu4g]d_t |izeof\()\*\(?(vmf(\.|->))?(pte|p[mu4g]d)p?\b' | \
>>    grep -v '^arch/' | wc -l
>> 766

That is indeed concerning.

I recall that we discussed an alternative approach with Ryan in the 
past: I don't remember all the details, but essentially it was about 
using separate types, such that dereferencing would not get you the type 
the other functions would be expecting. Such that the compiler will bark 
when you try to dereference.


-- 
Cheers

David


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-13 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-13  1:45 [PATCH v3 00/22] riscv: Memory type control for platforms with physical memory aliases Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 01/22] mm/ptdump: replace READ_ONCE() with standard page table accessors Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 02/22] mm: " Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  4:05   ` Dev Jain
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 03/22] mm/dirty: replace READ_ONCE() with pudp_get() Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 04/22] perf/events: replace READ_ONCE() with standard page table accessors Samuel Holland
2025-11-13 19:10   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 05/22] mm: Move the fallback definitions of pXXp_get() Samuel Holland
2025-11-13 19:11   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 06/22] mm: Always use page table accessor functions Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  4:53   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-13  5:46   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-26 11:08   ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2025-11-26 11:09   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-26 12:16     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-26 12:19       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-26 12:27         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-26 12:35           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-26 13:03             ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-26 13:47               ` Wei Yang
2025-11-26 14:22                 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-26 14:37                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-26 14:53                     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-26 14:46                   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-26 14:52                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-26 14:56                       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-26 15:08                         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-26 15:12                           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-26 16:07                             ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-26 16:34                               ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-26 20:31                                 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-27  7:14                                   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-27  7:31                                     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-27 15:32                                       ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-27 19:39                                 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2025-11-27 19:44                                 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2025-11-27  8:26                   ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2025-11-27  8:35                     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 07/22] checkpatch: Warn on page table access without accessors Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  2:21   ` Joe Perches
2025-11-13  2:36     ` Samuel Holland
2025-11-13 19:17       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 08/22] mm: Allow page table accessors to be non-idempotent Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  7:19   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-27 16:57   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-27 17:47     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 09/22] riscv: hibernate: Replace open-coded pXXp_get() Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 10/22] riscv: mm: Always use page table accessor functions Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 11/22] riscv: mm: Simplify set_p4d() and set_pgd() Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 12/22] riscv: mm: Deduplicate _PAGE_CHG_MASK definition Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 13/22] riscv: ptdump: Only show N and MT bits when enabled in the kernel Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 14/22] riscv: mm: Fix up memory types when writing page tables Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 15/22] riscv: mm: Expose all page table bits to assembly code Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 16/22] riscv: alternative: Add an ALTERNATIVE_3 macro Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 17/22] riscv: alternative: Allow calls with alternate link registers Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 18/22] riscv: Fix logic for selecting DMA_DIRECT_REMAP Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 19/22] dt-bindings: riscv: Describe physical memory regions Samuel Holland
2025-12-04 15:12   ` Rob Herring
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 20/22] riscv: mm: Use physical memory aliases to apply PMAs Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 21/22] riscv: dts: starfive: jh7100: Use physical memory ranges for DMA Samuel Holland
2025-11-13  1:45 ` [PATCH v3 22/22] riscv: dts: eswin: eic7700: " Samuel Holland
2025-11-13 19:13 ` [PATCH v3 00/22] riscv: Memory type control for platforms with physical memory aliases David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)

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