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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: yangge1116@126.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, 21cnbao@gmail.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, liuzixing@hygon.cn
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] mm/gup: Clear the LRU flag of a page before adding to LRU batch
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:02:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <26efe5f2-0cad-404c-82ca-a556469ba9c7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1719038884-1903-1-git-send-email-yangge1116@126.com>

On 22.06.24 08:48, yangge1116@126.com wrote:
> From: yangge <yangge1116@126.com>
> 
> If a large number of CMA memory are configured in system (for example, the
> CMA memory accounts for 50% of the system memory), starting a virtual
> virtual machine, it will call pin_user_pages_remote(..., FOLL_LONGTERM,
> ...) to pin memory.  Normally if a page is present and in CMA area,
> pin_user_pages_remote() will migrate the page from CMA area to non-CMA
> area because of FOLL_LONGTERM flag. But the current code will cause the
> migration failure due to unexpected page refcounts, and eventually cause
> the virtual machine fail to start.
> 
> If a page is added in LRU batch, its refcount increases one, remove the
> page from LRU batch decreases one. Page migration requires the page is not
> referenced by others except page mapping. Before migrating a page, we
> should try to drain the page from LRU batch in case the page is in it,
> however, folio_test_lru() is not sufficient to tell whether the page is
> in LRU batch or not, if the page is in LRU batch, the migration will fail.
> 
> To solve the problem above, we modify the logic of adding to LRU batch.
> Before adding a page to LRU batch, we clear the LRU flag of the page so
> that we can check whether the page is in LRU batch by folio_test_lru(page).
> Seems making the LRU flag of the page invisible a long time is no problem,
> because a new page is allocated from buddy and added to the lru batch,
> its LRU flag is also not visible for a long time.
> 

I think we need to describe the impact of this change in a better way. 
This example here is certainly interesting, but if pages are new they 
are also not candidate for immediate reclaim (tail of the LRU).

The positive thing is that we can more reliably identify pages that are 
on an LRU batch.

Further, a page can now only be on exactly one LRU batch.

But, as long as a page is on a LRU batch, we cannot isolate it, and we 
cannot check if it's an LRU page. The latter can currently already 
happen for a shorter time when moving LRU pages, and temporarily 
clearing the flag.

I shared some examples where we don't care, because we'd check for 
additional folio references either way (and the one from the LRU batch).

But I think we have to identify if there are any LRU folio/page checks 
that could now be impacted "more". At least we should document it 
properly to better understand the possible impact (do we maybe have to 
flush more often?).

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-07-03 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-22  6:48 yangge1116
2024-07-03  9:46 ` Barry Song
2024-07-03 11:15   ` Ge Yang
2024-07-03 12:02 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-07-04  6:24   ` Ge Yang
2024-07-27 22:33 ` Chris Li
2024-07-29  0:34   ` Ge Yang
2024-07-29  3:49   ` Ge Yang
2024-07-29 22:06     ` Chris Li
2024-08-02  1:51       ` Ge Yang
2024-08-02 20:18         ` Chris Li
2024-08-03  8:25           ` Ge Yang
2024-08-03 17:08             ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-03 20:03               ` Kairui Song
2024-08-04 12:21                 ` Kairui Song
2024-08-04 17:51                   ` Chris Li
2024-08-04 19:11                     ` Chris Li
2024-09-02 12:53                       ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2024-09-05  5:00                         ` Chris Li
2024-07-29 14:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-30  0:57   ` Ge Yang
2024-07-30  7:45     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-30  9:36       ` Ge Yang
2024-07-30  9:41         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-30  9:56           ` Ge Yang
2024-07-30  9:58             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-30 10:01               ` Ge Yang
2024-12-26  0:31 Andy amonte

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