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From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com
Cc: ziy@nvidia.com, npache@redhat.com, baohua@kernel.org,
	lance.yang@linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] mm: khugepaged: remove mm when all memory has been collapsed
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 10:29:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <26e65878-f214-4890-8bcb-24a45122bfd6@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251215090419.174418-3-yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>

On 12/15/25 10:04, Vernon Yang wrote:
> The following data is traced by bpftrace on a desktop system. After
> the system has been left idle for 10 minutes upon booting, a lot of
> SCAN_PMD_MAPPED or SCAN_PMD_NONE are observed during a full scan by
> khugepaged.
> 
> @scan_pmd_status[1]: 1           ## SCAN_SUCCEED
> @scan_pmd_status[4]: 158         ## SCAN_PMD_MAPPED
> @scan_pmd_status[3]: 174         ## SCAN_PMD_NONE
> total progress size: 701 MB
> Total time         : 440 seconds ## include khugepaged_scan_sleep_millisecs
> 
> The khugepaged_scan list save all task that support collapse into hugepage,
> as long as the take is not destroyed, khugepaged will not remove it from
> the khugepaged_scan list. This exist a phenomenon where task has already
> collapsed all memory regions into hugepage, but khugepaged continues to
> scan it, which wastes CPU time and invalid, and due to
> khugepaged_scan_sleep_millisecs (default 10s) causes a long wait for
> scanning a large number of invalid task, so scanning really valid task
> is later.
> 
> After applying this patch, when all memory is either SCAN_PMD_MAPPED or
> SCAN_PMD_NONE, the mm is automatically removed from khugepaged's scan
> list. If the page fault or MADV_HUGEPAGE again, it is added back to
> khugepaged.

I don't like that, as it assumes that memory within such a process would 
be rather static, which is easily not the case (e.g., allocators just 
doing MADV_DONTNEED to free memory).

If most stuff is collapsed to PMDs already, can't we just skip over 
these regions a bit faster?

-- 
Cheers

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-18  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-15  9:04 [PATCH 0/4] Improve khugepaged scan logic Vernon Yang
2025-12-15  9:04 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: khugepaged: add trace_mm_khugepaged_scan event Vernon Yang
2025-12-18  9:24   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19  5:21     ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-15  9:04 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: khugepaged: remove mm when all memory has been collapsed Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 11:52   ` Lance Yang
2025-12-16  6:27     ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 21:45   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16  6:30     ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 23:01   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16  6:32     ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-17  3:31   ` Wei Yang
2025-12-18  3:27     ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-18  3:48       ` Wei Yang
2025-12-18  4:41         ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-18  9:29   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2025-12-19  5:24     ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-19  9:00       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19  8:35     ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-19  8:55       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-23 11:18       ` Dev Jain
2025-12-25 16:07         ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-29  6:02         ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-22 19:00   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-15  9:04 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: khugepaged: move mm to list tail when MADV_COLD/MADV_FREE Vernon Yang
2025-12-15 21:12   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16  7:00     ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-16 13:08   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16 13:31   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-18  9:31   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19  5:29     ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-19  8:58       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-21  2:10         ` Wei Yang
2025-12-21  4:25           ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-21  9:24             ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-21 12:34               ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-23  9:59                 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-25 15:12                   ` Vernon Yang
2025-12-21 12:38             ` Wei Yang
2025-12-15  9:04 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: khugepaged: set to next mm direct when mm has MMF_DISABLE_THP_COMPLETELY Vernon Yang
2025-12-18  9:33   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-19  5:31     ` Vernon Yang

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