From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@samsung.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm: shmem: Rename mTHP shmem counters
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 09:07:30 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2672552a-b252-42ba-964b-db25413a418c@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <744749c3-4506-40d9-ac48-0dbc59689f92@arm.com>
On 2024/7/8 20:29, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 08/07/2024 12:36, Barry Song wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 11:24 PM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The legacy PMD-sized THP counters at /proc/vmstat include
>>> thp_file_alloc, thp_file_fallback and thp_file_fallback_charge, which
>>> rather confusingly refer to shmem THP and do not include any other types
>>> of file pages. This is inconsistent since in most other places in the
>>> kernel, THP counters are explicitly separated for anon, shmem and file
>>> flavours. However, we are stuck with it since it constitutes a user ABI.
>>>
>>> Recently, commit 66f44583f9b6 ("mm: shmem: add mTHP counters for
>>> anonymous shmem") added equivalent mTHP stats for shmem, keeping the
>>> same "file_" prefix in the names. But in future, we may want to add
>>> extra stats to cover actual file pages, at which point, it would all
>>> become very confusing.
>>>
>>> So let's take the opportunity to rename these new counters "shmem_"
>>> before the change makes it upstream and the ABI becomes immutable.
>>
>> Personally, I think this approach is much clearer. However, I recall
>> we discussed this
>> before [1], and it seems that inconsistency is a concern?
>
> Embarrassingly, I don't recall that converstation at all :-| but at least what I
> said then is consistent with what I've done in this patch.
>
> I think David's conclusion from that thread was to call them FILE_, and add both
> shmem and pagecache counts to those counters, meaning we can keep the same name
> as legacy THP counters. But those legacy THP counters only count shmem, and I
> don't think we would get away with adding pagecache counts to those at this
> point? (argument: they have been around for long time and there is a risk that
> user space relies on them and if they were to dramatically increase due to
> pagecache addition now that could break things). In that case, there is still
> inconsistency, but its worse; the names are consistent but the semantics are
> inconsistent.
>
> So my vote is to change to SHMEM_ as per this patch :)
>
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/05d0096e4ec3e572d1d52d33a31a661321ac1551.1713755580.git.baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com/
My original preference was also for SHMEM-specific counters :)
So feel free to add:
Reviewed-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-09 1:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-08 11:24 Ryan Roberts
2024-07-08 11:36 ` Barry Song
2024-07-08 12:29 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-08 20:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-09 1:21 ` Lance Yang
2024-07-09 7:47 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-09 7:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-09 7:59 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-09 1:07 ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2024-07-09 1:44 ` Barry Song
2024-07-09 7:55 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-09 8:13 ` Barry Song
2024-07-09 8:35 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-07-09 8:40 ` Barry Song
2024-07-09 1:26 ` Lance Yang
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