From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
To: Kirill Tkhai <tkhai@ya.ru>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, shakeelb@google.com, mhocko@kernel.org,
roman.gushchin@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
david@redhat.com, shy828301@gmail.com, sultan@kerneltoast.com,
dave@stgolabs.net, penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp,
paulmck@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] make slab shrink lockless
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 18:08:18 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <25c644e2-70a0-9544-47db-46dd88b993d3@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dcf1d336-cfe1-964e-efe7-4aa40d4a3520@ya.ru>
On 2023/2/28 03:20, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
> On 27.02.2023 18:08, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:31:51PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> This patch series aims to make slab shrink lockless.
>>>>
>>>> What an awesome changelog.
>>>>
>>>>> 2. Survey
>>>>> =========
>>>>
>>>> Especially this part.
>>>>
>>>> Looking through all the prior efforts and at this patchset I am not
>>>> immediately seeing any statements about the overall effect upon
>>>> real-world workloads. For a good example, does this patchset
>>>> measurably improve throughput or energy consumption on your servers?
>>>
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>> I re-tested with the following physical machines:
>>>
>>> Architecture: x86_64
>>> CPU(s): 96
>>> On-line CPU(s) list: 0-95
>>> Model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz
>>>
>>> I found that the reason for the hotspot I described in cover letter is
>>> wrong. The reason for the down_read_trylock() hotspot is not because of
>>> the failure to trylock, but simply because of the atomic operation
>>> (cmpxchg). And this will lead to a significant reduction in IPC (insn
>>> per cycle).
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots:
>>>
>>> perf top -U -F 999
>>>
>>> 1) Before applying this patchset:
>>>
>>> 32.31% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock
>>> 19.40% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt
>>> 16.24% [kernel] [k] up_read
>>> 15.70% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab
>>> 4.69% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit
>>> 2.62% [kernel] [k] shrink_node
>>> 1.78% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec
>>> 0.76% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab
>>>
>>> 2) After applying this patchset:
>>>
>>> 27.83% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit
>>> 16.97% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab
>>> 15.82% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt
>>> 9.58% [kernel] [k] shrink_node
>>> 8.31% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec
>>> 5.64% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab
>>> 3.88% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter
>>>
>>> 2. At the same time, we use the following perf command to capture IPC
>>> information:
>>>
>>> perf stat -e cycles,instructions -G test -a --repeat 5 -- sleep 10
>>>
>>> 1) Before applying this patchset:
>>>
>>> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs):
>>>
>>> 454187219766 cycles test (
>>> +- 1.84% )
>>> 78896433101 instructions test # 0.17 insn per
>>> cycle ( +- 0.44% )
>>>
>>> 10.0020430 +- 0.0000366 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.00% )
>>>
>>> 2) After applying this patchset:
>>>
>>> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs):
>>>
>>> 841954709443 cycles test (
>>> +- 15.80% ) (98.69%)
>>> 527258677936 instructions test # 0.63 insn per
>>> cycle ( +- 15.11% ) (98.68%)
>>>
>>> 10.01064 +- 0.00831 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.08% )
>>>
>>> We can see that IPC drops very seriously when calling
>>> down_read_trylock() at high frequency. After using SRCU,
>>> the IPC is at a normal level.
>>
>> The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test
>> script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads
>> benefit from your changes.
>
> One of the real workloads from my experience is start of an overcommitted node
> containing many starting containers after node crash (or many resuming containers
> after reboot for kernel update). In these cases memory pressure is huge, and
> the node goes round in long reclaim.
Thanks a lot for providing this real workload! :)
>
> This patch patchset makes prealloc_memcg_shrinker() independent of do_shrink_slab(),
> so prealloc_memcg_shrinker() won't have to wait till shrink_slab_memcg() completes its
> current bit iteration, sees rwsem_is_contended() and the iteration breaks.
>
> Also, it's important to mention that currently we have the strange behavior:
>
> prealloc_memcg_shrinker()
> down_write(&shrinker_rwsem)
> idr_alloc()
> reclaim
> for each child memcg
> shrink_slab_memcg()
> down_read_trylock(&shrinker_rwsem) -> fail
>
> All the slab reclaim in this behavior is just a parasite work, and it just wastes
> our cpu time, which does not look a good design.
>
> Kirill
--
Thanks,
Qi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-28 10:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-26 14:46 Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] mm: vmscan: add a map_nr_max field to shrinker_info Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:54 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] mm: vmscan: make global slab shrink lockless Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] mm: vmscan: make memcg " Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] mm: vmscan: add shrinker_srcu_generation Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] mm: shrinkers: make count and scan in shrinker debugfs lockless Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] mm: vmscan: hold write lock to reparent shrinker nr_deferred Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] mm: vmscan: remove shrinker_rwsem from synchronize_shrinkers() Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] mm: shrinkers: convert shrinker_rwsem to mutex Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 19:51 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] make slab shrink lockless Andrew Morton
2023-02-27 13:31 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-27 15:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-02-27 19:20 ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-02-27 19:32 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-27 19:47 ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-02-28 10:08 ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2023-02-28 10:04 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-28 10:53 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-28 18:40 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-01 2:27 ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-27 19:02 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-28 10:11 ` Qi Zheng
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