From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 03/10] mm: fs: remove filemap_nr_thps*() functions and their users
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2026 11:05:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <25899F67-955D-44DC-935E-D7F234BD335A@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53cf6157-58b1-4539-a276-2486e8796c57@lucifer.local>
On 27 Mar 2026, at 10:23, Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 02:58:12PM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 3/27/26 13:23, Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 09:42:48PM -0400, Zi Yan wrote:
>>>> They are used by READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS to handle writes to FSes without
>>>> large folio support, so that read-only THPs created in these FSes are not
>>>> seen by the FSes when the underlying fd becomes writable. Now read-only PMD
>>>> THPs only appear in a FS with large folio support and the supported orders
>>>> include PMD_ORDRE.
>>>
>>> Typo: PMD_ORDRE -> PMD_ORDER
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
>>>
>>> This looks obviously-correct since this stuff wouldn't have been invoked for
>>> large folio file systems before + they already had to handle it separately, and
>>> this function is only tied to CONFIG_READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS (+ a quick grep
>>> suggests you didn't miss anything), so:
>>
>> There could now be a race between collapsing and the file getting opened
>> r/w.
>>
>> Are we sure that all code can really deal with that?
>>
>> IOW, "they already had to handle it separately" -- is that true?
>> khugepaged would have never collapse in writable files, so I wonder if
>> all code paths are prepared for that.
>
> OK I guess I overlooked a part of this code... :) see below.
>
> This is fine and would be a no-op anyway
>
> - if (f->f_mode & FMODE_WRITE) {
> - /*
> - * Depends on full fence from get_write_access() to synchronize
> - * against collapse_file() regarding i_writecount and nr_thps
> - * updates. Ensures subsequent insertion of THPs into the page
> - * cache will fail.
> - */
> - if (filemap_nr_thps(inode->i_mapping)) {
>
> But this:
>
> - if (!is_shmem) {
> - filemap_nr_thps_inc(mapping);
> - /*
> - * Paired with the fence in do_dentry_open() -> get_write_access()
> - * to ensure i_writecount is up to date and the update to nr_thps
> - * is visible. Ensures the page cache will be truncated if the
> - * file is opened writable.
> - */
> - smp_mb();
>
> We can drop barrier
>
> - if (inode_is_open_for_write(mapping->host)) {
> - result = SCAN_FAIL;
>
> But this is a functional change!
>
> Yup missed this.
But I added
+ if (!is_shmem && inode_is_open_for_write(mapping->host))
+ result = SCAN_FAIL;
That keeps the original bail out, right?
>
> - filemap_nr_thps_dec(mapping);
> - }
> - }
>
> For below:
>
> - /*
> - * Undo the updates of filemap_nr_thps_inc for non-SHMEM
> - * file only. This undo is not needed unless failure is
> - * due to SCAN_COPY_MC.
> - */
> - if (!is_shmem && result == SCAN_COPY_MC) {
> - filemap_nr_thps_dec(mapping);
> - /*
> - * Paired with the fence in do_dentry_open() -> get_write_access()
> - * to ensure the update to nr_thps is visible.
> - */
> - smp_mb();
> - }
>
> Here is probably fine to remove if barrier _only_ for nr_thps.
>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> David
>
> Sorry Zi, R-b tag withdrawn... :( I missed that 1 functional change there.
>
> Cheers, Lorenzo
Best Regards,
Yan, Zi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-27 15:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-27 1:42 [PATCH v1 00/10] Remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Kconfig Zi Yan
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 01/10] mm: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Kconfig option Zi Yan
2026-03-27 11:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 13:33 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27 14:39 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 02/10] mm/khugepaged: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS check Zi Yan
2026-03-27 7:29 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 7:35 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 9:44 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-27 12:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 13:45 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-27 14:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 14:26 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-27 14:31 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 15:00 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 16:22 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 16:30 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-28 2:29 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-27 12:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 14:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 14:46 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 13:37 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27 14:43 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 03/10] mm: fs: remove filemap_nr_thps*() functions and their users Zi Yan
2026-03-27 9:32 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 12:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 13:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27 14:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 15:05 ` Zi Yan [this message]
2026-04-01 14:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 15:32 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-01 19:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 20:33 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-02 14:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-02 14:38 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 04/10] fs: remove nr_thps from struct address_space Zi Yan
2026-03-27 12:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 14:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-30 3:06 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 05/10] mm/huge_memory: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS from file_thp_enabled() Zi Yan
2026-03-27 12:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 15:12 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 15:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 15:43 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 16:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 16:12 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 16:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-29 4:07 ` WANG Rui
2026-03-30 11:17 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-30 14:35 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-30 16:09 ` WANG Rui
2026-03-30 16:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-01 14:38 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 14:53 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 06/10] mm/huge_memory: remove folio split check for READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Zi Yan
2026-03-27 12:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-30 9:15 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 07/10] mm/truncate: use folio_split() in truncate_inode_partial_folio() Zi Yan
2026-03-27 3:33 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 13:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 15:35 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-28 9:54 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-28 9:54 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 08/10] fs/btrfs: remove a comment referring to READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Zi Yan
2026-03-27 13:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 09/10] selftests/mm: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS in khugepaged Zi Yan
2026-03-27 13:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 10/10] selftests/mm: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS from comments in guard-regions Zi Yan
2026-03-27 13:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 13:46 ` [PATCH v1 00/10] Remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Kconfig David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27 14:26 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 14:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 14:30 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-05 17:38 ` Nico Pache
2026-04-06 1:59 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-06 16:17 ` Nico Pache
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