From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/4] mm: Remember young bit for migration entries
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 22:23:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <24ffea6e-ca66-2b94-c682-48a42a655fd1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YumFs0jpCc/Mwjzf@xz-m1.local>
> I don't think we only care about x86_64? Should other archs have the same
> issue as long as there's the hardware young bit?
>
> Even without it, it'll affect page reclaim logic too, and that's also not
> x86 only.
Okay, reading the cover letter and looking at the code my understanding
was that x86-64 is the real focus.
>>
>>>
>>> Besides I actually have a question on the anon exclusive bit in the swap
>>> pte: since we have that anyway, why we need a specific migration type for
>>> anon exclusive pages? Can it be simply read migration entries with anon
>>> exclusive bit set?
>>
>> Not before all arch support pte_swp_mkexclusive/pte_swp_exclusive/.
>>
>> As pte_swp_mkexclusive/pte_swp_exclusive/ only applies to actual swap
>> PTEs, you could even reuse that bit for migration entries and get at
>> alteast the most relevant 64bit architectures supported easily.
>
> Yes, but I think having two mechanisms for the single problem can confuse
> people.
>
It would be one bit with two different meanings depending on the swp type.
> IIUC the swap bit is already defined in major archs anyway, and since anon
> exclusive bit is best-effort (or am I wrong?..), I won't worry too much on
It kind-of is best effort, but the goal is to have all archs support it.
... just like the young bit here?
> archs outside x86/arm/ppc/s390 on having anon exclusive bit lost during
> migrations, because afaict the whole swap type of ANON_EXCLUSIVE_READ is
> only servicing that very minority.. which seems to be a pity to waste the
I have a big item on my todo list to support all, but I have different
priorities right now.
If there is no free bit, simply steal one from the offset ... which is
the same thing your approach would do, just in a different way, no?
> swp type on all archs even if the archs defined swp pte bits just for anon
> exclusive.
Why do we care? We walk about one type not one bit.
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-02 20:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-29 1:40 Peter Xu
2022-07-29 1:40 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] mm/swap: Add swp_offset_pfn() to fetch PFN from swap entry Peter Xu
2022-08-01 3:13 ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-01 22:29 ` Peter Xu
2022-08-02 1:22 ` Huang, Ying
2022-07-29 1:40 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] mm: Remember young bit for page migrations Peter Xu
2022-07-29 1:40 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] mm/x86: Use SWP_TYPE_BITS in 3-level swap macros Peter Xu
2022-07-29 1:40 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] mm/x86: Define __ARCH_SWP_OFFSET_BITS Peter Xu
2022-07-29 17:07 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] mm: Remember young bit for migration entries Nadav Amit
2022-07-29 22:43 ` Peter Xu
2022-08-01 3:20 ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-01 5:33 ` Huang, Ying
2022-08-01 22:25 ` Peter Xu
2022-08-01 8:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-01 22:35 ` Peter Xu
2022-08-02 12:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-02 20:14 ` Peter Xu
2022-08-02 20:23 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2022-08-02 20:35 ` Peter Xu
2022-08-02 20:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-02 22:15 ` Peter Xu
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