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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] memcg: use __mod_memcg_state in drain_obj_stock
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:02:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24a8fa02-6504-4597-a445-a8124919410f@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6n7rsw565dy4kt7yxmik5kpxdz2b5h2bdsysfvi2rwmvl4juml@npkqfiyzfqua>

On 3/17/25 22:54, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 09:56:39PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 3/15/25 18:49, Shakeel Butt wrote:
>> > For non-PREEMPT_RT kernels, drain_obj_stock() is always called with irq
>> > disabled, so we can use __mod_memcg_state() instead of
>> > mod_memcg_state(). For PREEMPT_RT, we need to add memcg_stats_[un]lock
>> > in __mod_memcg_state().
>> > 
>> > Signed-off-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
>> > Reviewed-by: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
>> 
>> I've asked in the RFC and from Sebastian's answer I think my question was
>> misunderstod, so let me try again.
>> 
>> After this patch we'll have from mod_memcg_state():
>> 
>> mod_memcg_state()
>>   local_irq_save(flags);
>>   __mod_memcg_state()
>>     memcg_stats_lock(); <- new and unnecessary?
>> 
>> Instead of modifying __mod_memcg_state() we could be more targetted and just
>> do in drain_obj_stock():
>> 
>> memcg_stats_lock();
>> __mod_memcg_state();
>> memcg_stats_unlock();
>> 
>> Am I missing something?
> 
> This seems unnecessary because this patch is adding the first user of
> __mod_memcg_state()

You mean first other user than mod_memcg_state() itself.

> but I think maintainability is better with
> memcg_stats_[un]lock() inside __mod_memcg_state().
> 
> Let's take the example of __mod_memcg_lruvec_state(). It is being
> called from places where non-RT kernel, the irqs are disabled through
> spin_lock_irq*, so on RT kernel, the irq would not be disabled and
> thus explicitly need preemption disabled. What if in future
> __mod_memcg_state() is being used by a caller which assumes preemption
> is disabled through irq disable. The RT kernel would be buggy there.
> 
> I am not sure if it is easy to force the future users to explicitly add
> memcg_stats_[un]lock() across the call to __mod_memcg_state().

I see the point. Well least memcg_stats_lock() isn't expensive, and it's a
no-op on non-debug !RT anyway.

Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>




  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-18  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-15 17:49 [PATCH 0/9] memcg: cleanup per-cpu stock Shakeel Butt
2025-03-15 17:49 ` [PATCH 1/9] memcg: remove root memcg check from refill_stock Shakeel Butt
2025-03-18  0:39   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-03-18  7:59   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-21 16:55     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-15 17:49 ` [PATCH 2/9] memcg: decouple drain_obj_stock from local stock Shakeel Butt
2025-03-18  0:44   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-03-15 17:49 ` [PATCH 3/9] memcg: introduce memcg_uncharge Shakeel Butt
2025-03-18  0:50   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-03-15 17:49 ` [PATCH 4/9] memcg: manually inline __refill_stock Shakeel Butt
2025-03-18  0:58   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-03-18  7:58     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-15 17:49 ` [PATCH 5/9] memcg: no refilling stock from obj_cgroup_release Shakeel Butt
2025-03-18  1:06   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-03-15 17:49 ` [PATCH 6/9] memcg: do obj_cgroup_put inside drain_obj_stock Shakeel Butt
2025-03-18  1:07   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-03-15 17:49 ` [PATCH 7/9] memcg: use __mod_memcg_state in drain_obj_stock Shakeel Butt
2025-03-17 20:56   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-17 21:54     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-18  8:02       ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-03-18  1:13   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-03-18  7:50     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-15 17:49 ` [PATCH 8/9] memcg: combine slab obj stock charging and accounting Shakeel Butt
2025-03-18  1:20   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-03-15 17:49 ` [PATCH 9/9] memcg: manually inline replace_stock_objcg Shakeel Butt
2025-03-18  1:21   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-03-18  8:00   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-16  3:57 ` [PATCH 0/9] memcg: cleanup per-cpu stock Andrew Morton
2025-03-16  4:43   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-16 15:59   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-03-17 18:11     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-03-17 20:27     ` Andrew Morton
2025-04-02 20:40 ` Shakeel Butt

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