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From: Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>, Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>
Cc: "Meyer, Kyle" <kyle.meyer@hpe.com>,
	"jane.chu@oracle.com" <jane.chu@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
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	"Fan, Shawn" <shawn.fan@intel.com>
Subject: Re: PATCH v3 ACPI: APEI: GHES: Don't offline huge pages just because BIOS asked
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 09:53:04 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <248f19dd-25e6-4e97-8169-96da1e860035@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ1PR11MB6083B887B3EE4DBEB6438C2EFC16A@SJ1PR11MB6083.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>



在 2025/9/19 02:45, Luck, Tony 写道:
>> Thank you for your detailed explanation. I believe this is exactly the problem
>> we're encountering in our production environment.
>>
>> As you mentioned, memory access is typically interleaved between channels. When
>> the per-rank threshold is exceeded, soft-offlining the last accessed address
>> seems unreasonable - regardless of whether it's a 4KB page or a huge page. The
>> error accumulation happens at the rank level, but the action is taken on a
>> specific page that happened to trigger the threshold, which doesn't address the
>> underlying issue.
>>
>> I'm curious about the intended use case for the CPER_SEC_ERROR_THRESHOLD_EXCEEDED
>> flag. What scenario was Intel BIOS expecting the OS to handle when this flag is set?
>> Is there a specific interpretation of "threshold exceeded" that would make
>> page-level offline action meaningful? If not, how about disabling soft offline from
>> GHES and leave that to userspace tools like rasdaemon (mcelog) ?
> 
> The original use case was defined by IBM [1] (that division is now part of Lenovo).
> IBM BIOS enabled a firmware first mode to handle errors, cutting the OS out of
> the picture. But the challenge with this was how to handle a case where the BIOS
> identified a recurring problem on a specific memory address. The solution proposed
> was to use GHES notification using the CPER_SEC_ERROR_THRESHOLD_EXCEEDED
> flag to let the OS know that this corrected error needs some action.
> 
> -Tony
> 
> [1] cf870c70a194 ("mce: acpi/apei: Soft-offline a page on firmware GHES notification")
> 
> 

Hi, Tony,

Thanks for the historical context. Understanding the IBM use case
and the original design intent is very helpful.

Best regards,
Shuai


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-19  1:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-04 15:57 [PATCH] " Tony Luck
2025-09-04 17:25 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-04 18:16 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-05 15:53   ` [PATCH v2] " Luck, Tony
2025-09-05 16:25     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-05 18:17       ` PATCH v3 " Luck, Tony
2025-09-05 19:39         ` jane.chu
2025-09-05 19:58           ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-05 20:14             ` jane.chu
2025-09-05 20:36               ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-05 19:59           ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-09-08 19:14             ` Kyle Meyer
2025-09-08 20:01               ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-10 12:01                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-09-18  3:39               ` Shuai Xue
2025-09-18 15:43                 ` Jiaqi Yan
2025-09-18 18:45                   ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-19  1:53                     ` Shuai Xue [this message]
2025-09-18 19:46                   ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-19  1:49                   ` Shuai Xue

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