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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	willy@infradead.org, ziy@nvidia.com, hughd@google.com,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Plain dereference and READ_ONCE() in fault handler
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 20:59:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <248ab74d-0f5c-4076-bfb2-a5eef8aca757@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c3f3cfe-9fa7-41d7-9759-cc67306f13f5@arm.com>

> Oh I just looked at the arm64 definition and assumed ptep_get_lockless()
> == READ_ONCE() :) Now this makes sense. So I am guessing that we can
> still get away with a *vmf.pmd on 64-bit arches?
> 
> A separate question: When taking the create_huge_pmd() path with a read
> fault and after taking the pmd lock, why shouldn't we check with
> pmd_none(pmdp_get_lockless(vmf.pmd)) instead of plain *vmf.pmd...surely
> now we must load the actual correct value from memory since we are
> committing into mapping the huge zero folio?

So you mean we go via create_huge_pmd()->do_huge_pmd_anonymous_page(), 
to then end up in the path where we do the mm_get_huge_zero_folio().

If we hold the PMD lock, pmd_none() cannot change, so there is no need 
for the lockless variant?

So with the lock, you get the actual correct value that cannot change.

> And after looking somewhat more, why even is a pmd_none(*pmd) there in
> set_huge_zero_folio()...it should be the responsibility of the caller to
> verify this? Any caller will just assume that it got the huge zero folio
> mapped so this check should be redundant.

Yes, looks more like a VM_WARN_ON() scenario. So I agree that that one 
does not sound useful. (*maybe* the compiler is smart enough to optimize 
that check out)

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



      reply	other threads:[~2025-03-05 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-05 10:21 Dev Jain
2025-03-05 10:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-05 14:12   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-05 15:02   ` Dev Jain
2025-03-05 19:59     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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