From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
hughd@google.com, david@redhat.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
dev.jain@arm.com, baohua@kernel.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: fault in complete folios instead of individual pages for tmpfs
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 15:53:56 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <23f1c3ab-16ca-41db-b008-22448d9e08f2@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <007c4a94-c94a-418e-9907-7510422f8ca4@lucifer.local>
On 2025/7/7 21:33, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 06, 2025 at 10:02:35AM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2025/7/5 06:18, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 11:19:26 +0800 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> After commit acd7ccb284b8 ("mm: shmem: add large folio support for tmpfs"),
>>>> tmpfs can also support large folio allocation (not just PMD-sized large
>>>> folios).
>>>>
>>>> However, when accessing tmpfs via mmap(), although tmpfs supports large folios,
>>>> we still establish mappings at the base page granularity, which is unreasonable.
>>>>
>>>> We can map multiple consecutive pages of a tmpfs folios at once according to
>>>> the size of the large folio. On one hand, this can reduce the overhead of page
>>>> faults; on the other hand, it can leverage hardware architecture optimizations
>>>> to reduce TLB misses, such as contiguous PTEs on the ARM architecture.
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, tmpfs mount will use the 'huge=' option to control large folio
>>>> allocation explicitly. So it can be understood that the process's RSS statistics
>>>> might increase, and I think this will not cause any obvious effects for users.
>>>>
>>>> Performance test:
>>>> I created a 1G tmpfs file, populated with 64K large folios, and write-accessed it
>>>> sequentially via mmap(). I observed a significant performance improvement:
>>>
>>> That doesn't sound like a crazy thing to do.
>>>
>>>> Before the patch:
>>>> real 0m0.158s
>>>> user 0m0.008s
>>>> sys 0m0.150s
>>>>
>>>> After the patch:
>>>> real 0m0.021s
>>>> user 0m0.004s
>>>> sys 0m0.017s
>>>
>>> And look at that.
>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>>>> index 0f9b32a20e5b..9944380e947d 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>>>> @@ -5383,10 +5383,10 @@ vm_fault_t finish_fault(struct vm_fault *vmf)
>>>> /*
>>>> * Using per-page fault to maintain the uffd semantics, and same
>>>> - * approach also applies to non-anonymous-shmem faults to avoid
>>>> + * approach also applies to non shmem/tmpfs faults to avoid
>>>> * inflating the RSS of the process.
>>>> */
>>>> - if (!vma_is_anon_shmem(vma) || unlikely(userfaultfd_armed(vma)) ||
>>>> + if (!vma_is_shmem(vma) || unlikely(userfaultfd_armed(vma)) ||
>>>> unlikely(needs_fallback)) {
>>>> nr_pages = 1;
>>>> } else if (nr_pages > 1) {
>>>
>>> and that's it?
>>>
>>> I'm itching to get this into -stable, really. What LTS user wouldn't
>>> want this?
>>
>> This is an improvement rather than a bugfix, so I don't think it needs to go
>> into LTS.
>>
>> Could it be viewed as correcting an oversight in
>>> acd7ccb284b8?
>>
>> Yes, I should have added this optimization in the series of the commit
>> acd7ccb284b8. But obviously, I missed this :(.
>
> Buuut if this was an oversight for that patch that causes an unnecessary
> perf degradation, surely this should have fixes tag + cc stable no?
IMO, this commit acd7ccb284b8 won't cause perf degradation, instead it
is used to introduce a new feature, while the current patch is a further
reasonable optimization. As I mentioned, this is an improvement, not a
bugfix or a patch to address performance regression.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-08 7:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-04 3:19 Baolin Wang
2025-07-04 9:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-04 22:18 ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-06 2:02 ` Baolin Wang
2025-07-07 13:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-08 7:53 ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2025-07-09 13:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-15 20:03 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-07-17 8:01 ` Baolin Wang
2025-07-17 8:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 9:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-17 9:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-17 9:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-04 22:31 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-07 13:31 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-07 15:47 ` Barry Song
2025-07-07 16:18 ` Vishal Moola (Oracle)
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