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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
Cc: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/22] slab: add sheaves to most caches
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 19:01:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <23df6018-69c5-4c94-bbdc-05c03f837f2b@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXxaryFUrIFo7/hL@intel.com>

On 1/30/26 08:15, Zhao Liu wrote:
> Hi Vlastimil,
> 
>> > vm_area_cachep's capacity seems to be adjusted to 60 and
>> > maple_node_cache keeps 32 as the args setting.
>> 
>> Good to know. It is a bit larger.
>> Hm I could have probably applied the args capacity before doing the roundup
>> to make sheaf fill whole kmalloc size. Would add a few object for maple node
>> I guess.
> 
> Re-considerring this formula:
> 
> the nr_objects in set_cpu_partial() in fact represents the half-full
> case since it was used to calculate nr_slabs in slub_set_cpu_partial().
> 
> Therefore, the maximum capacity of this partial approach should be
> nr_objects * 2 (and should actually be even larger, since it doesn't
> account for the object on CPU's freelist).
> 
> But here, for sheaf, the implicit assumption is that it is completely
> full, so that for the maximum capacity of objects per CPU, the sheaf
> approach is "half" that of the partial approach.
> 
> Is this expected? I'm considering whether we should remove the
> “divide by two” and instead calculate the sheaf capacity based on
> half-full assumption (e.h., full main & empty spare).

Yeah the non-doubling was intentional. Sheaves can be always fully filled up
by freeing and fully emptied by allocating. Cpu partial slabs don't make
freeing as cheap (except never needing the list_lock perhaps) because it's
the locked double cmpxchg patch. For allocation, we might be obtaining them
from the partial list either on allocation where they might have any number
of free objects between 1 and slab size, or we put them to partial list on a
first free to a full slab - and then there will be just single free object,
but we hope there will be more frees before we turn that slab into cpu slab.

So the half-full case is an estimate that might be even actually less as the
freeing side is biased to almost-full slabs.

With sheaves no such estimate is necessary. Not accounting for the cpu slab
size was maybe a mistake. In any case we can tune the sizes later, but this
should not be based on synthetic benchmark only.

Thanks,
Vlastimil

> Thanks,
> Zhao
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-04 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-23  6:52 [PATCH v4 00/22] slab: replace cpu (partial) slabs with sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 01/22] mm/slab: add rcu_barrier() to kvfree_rcu_barrier_on_cache() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 16:08   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 02/22] mm/slab: fix false lockdep warning in __kfree_rcu_sheaf() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 12:03   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-24 10:58     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 03/22] slab: add SLAB_CONSISTENCY_CHECKS to SLAB_NEVER_MERGE Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 04/22] mm/slab: move and refactor __kmem_cache_alias() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 16:17   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-27 16:59     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 05/22] mm/slab: make caches with sheaves mergeable Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 16:23   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 06/22] slab: add sheaves to most caches Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26  6:36   ` Hao Li
2026-01-26  8:39     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26 13:59   ` Breno Leitao
2026-01-27 16:34   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-27 17:01     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29  7:24   ` Zhao Liu
2026-01-29  8:21     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-30  7:15       ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-04 18:01         ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 07/22] slab: introduce percpu sheaves bootstrap Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26  6:13   ` Hao Li
2026-01-26  8:42     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 17:31   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 08/22] slab: make percpu sheaves compatible with kmalloc_nolock()/kfree_nolock() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:05   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-27 17:36   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-29  8:25     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 09/22] slab: handle kmalloc sheaves bootstrap Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 18:30   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 10/22] slab: add optimized sheaf refill from partial list Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26  7:12   ` Hao Li
2026-01-29  7:43     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-29  8:29       ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 20:05   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-29  8:01   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 11/22] slab: remove cpu (partial) slabs usage from allocation paths Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:17   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 12/22] slab: remove SLUB_CPU_PARTIAL Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 13/22] slab: remove the do_slab_free() fastpath Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:15   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 14/22] slab: remove defer_deactivate_slab() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 17:31   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 15/22] slab: simplify kmalloc_nolock() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 16/22] slab: remove struct kmem_cache_cpu Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 17/22] slab: remove unused PREEMPT_RT specific macros Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 18/22] slab: refill sheaves from all nodes Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 14:28   ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-01-27 22:04     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29  9:16   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 19/22] slab: update overview comments Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 20/22] slab: remove frozen slab checks from __slab_free() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29  7:16   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 21/22] mm/slub: remove DEACTIVATE_TO_* stat items Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29  7:21   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-23  6:53 ` [PATCH v4 22/22] mm/slub: cleanup and repurpose some " Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29  7:40   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-29 15:18 ` [PATCH v4 00/22] slab: replace cpu (partial) slabs with sheaves Hao Li
2026-01-29 15:28   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29 16:06     ` Hao Li
2026-01-29 16:44       ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-30  4:38         ` Hao Li
2026-01-30  4:50     ` Hao Li
2026-01-30  6:17       ` Hao Li
2026-02-04 18:02       ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-02-04 18:24         ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2026-02-06 16:44           ` Vlastimil Babka

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