From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Meta kernel team <kernel-team@meta.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] memcg: add charging of already allocated slab objects
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:42:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <22e28cb5-4834-4a21-8ebb-e4e53259014c@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkY88cAnGFy2zAcjaU_8AC_P5CwZo0PSjr0JRDQDu308Wg@mail.gmail.com>
On 8/29/24 02:49, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 5:20 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 04:25:30PM GMT, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
>> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 4:52 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev> wrote:
>> > >
>> [...]
>> > > +
>> > > + /* Ignore KMALLOC_NORMAL cache to avoid circular dependency. */
>> > > + if ((s->flags & KMALLOC_TYPE) == SLAB_KMALLOC)
>> > > + return true;
>> >
>> > Taking a step back here, why do we need this? Which circular
>> > dependency are we avoiding here?
>>
>> commit 494c1dfe855ec1f70f89552fce5eadf4a1717552
>> Author: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
>> Date: Mon Jun 28 19:37:38 2021 -0700
>>
>> mm: memcg/slab: create a new set of kmalloc-cg-<n> caches
>>
>> There are currently two problems in the way the objcg pointer array
>> (memcg_data) in the page structure is being allocated and freed.
>>
>> On its allocation, it is possible that the allocated objcg pointer
>> array comes from the same slab that requires memory accounting. If this
>> happens, the slab will never become empty again as there is at least
>> one object left (the obj_cgroup array) in the slab.
>>
>> When it is freed, the objcg pointer array object may be the last one
>> in its slab and hence causes kfree() to be called again. With the
>> right workload, the slab cache may be set up in a way that allows the
>> recursive kfree() calling loop to nest deep enough to cause a kernel
>> stack overflow and panic the system.
>> ...
>
> Thanks for the reference, this makes sense.
Another reason is memory savings, if we have a small subset of objects in
KMALLOC_NORMAL caches accounted, there might be e.g. one vector per a slab
just to account on object while the rest is unaccounted. Separating between
kmalloc and kmalloc-cg caches keeps the former with no vectors and the
latter with fully used vectors.
> Wouldn't it be easier to special case the specific slab cache used for
> the objcg vector or use a dedicated cache for it instead of using
> kmalloc caches to begin with?
The problem is the vector isn't a fixed size, it depends on how many objects
a particular slab (not even a particular cache) has.
> Anyway, I am fine with any approach you and/or the slab maintainers
> prefer, as long as we make things clear. If you keep the following
> approach as-is, please expand the comment or refer to the commit you
> just referenced.
>
> Personally, I prefer either explicitly special casing the slab cache
> used for the objcgs vector, explicitly tagging KMALLOC_NORMAL
> allocations, or having a dedicated documented helper that finds the
> slab cache kmalloc type (if any) or checks if it is a KMALLOC_NORMAL
> cache.
A helper to check is_kmalloc_normal() would be better than defining
KMALLOC_TYPE and using it directly, yes. We don't need to handle any other
types now until anyone needs those.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-29 8:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-27 23:52 Shakeel Butt
2024-08-28 0:34 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-28 19:14 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-08-28 19:42 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-28 20:16 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-08-28 22:10 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-28 23:25 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-29 0:20 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-08-29 0:49 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-29 8:42 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2024-08-29 15:50 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-08-29 18:28 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-29 9:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-29 16:10 ` Shakeel Butt
2024-08-29 16:20 ` Roman Gushchin
2024-08-29 17:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-30 20:34 ` Roman Gushchin
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