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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: "Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Baoquan He" <bhe@redhat.com>, "Dave Young" <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Hari Bathini" <hbathini@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Huang Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
	"Miles Chen" <miles.chen@mediatek.com>,
	"Pavel Tatashin" <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>,
	"Petr Tesarik" <ptesarik@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/2] mm/kdump: exclude reserved pages in dumps
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 10:45:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21c31952-7632-b8e1-aa33-d124ce96b88e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180726083042.GC28386@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 26.07.2018 10:30, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 26-07-18 10:22:41, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 24.07.2018 09:22, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Mon 23-07-18 19:12:58, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 23.07.2018 13:45, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>>>> On 07/20/2018 02:34 PM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>> Dumping tools (like makedumpfile) right now don't exclude reserved pages.
>>>>>> So reserved pages might be access by dump tools although nobody except
>>>>>> the owner should touch them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you sure about that? Or maybe I understand wrong. Maybe it changed
>>>>> recently, but IIRC pages that are backing memmap (struct pages) are also
>>>>> PG_reserved. And you definitely do want those in the dump.
>>>>
>>>> I proposed a new flag/value to mask pages that are logically offline but
>>>> Michal wanted me to go into this direction.
>>>>
>>>> While we can special case struct pages in dump tools ("we have to
>>>> read/interpret them either way, so we can also dump them"), it smells
>>>> like my original attempt was cleaner. Michal?
>>>
>>> But we do not have many page flags spare and even if we have one or two
>>> this doesn't look like the use for them. So I still think we should try
>>> the PageReserved way.
>>>
>>
>> So as a summary, the only real approach that would be acceptable is
>> using PageReserved + some other identifier to mark pages as "logically
>> offline".
>>
>> I wonder what identifier could be used, as this has to be consistent for
>> all reserved pages (to avoid false positives).
>>
>> Using other pageflags in combination might be possible, but then we have
>> to make assumptions about all users of PageReserved right now.
>>
>> As far as I can see (and as has been discussed), page_type could be
>> used. If we don't want to consume a new bit, we could overload/reuse the
>> "PG_balloon" bit.
>>
>>
>> E.g. "PG_balloon" set -> exclude page from dump
> 
> Does each user of PG_balloon check for PG_reserved? If this is the case
> then yes this would be OK.
> 

I can only spot one user of PageBalloon() at all (fs/proc/page.c) ,
which makes me wonder if this bit is actually still relevant. I think
the last "real" user was removed with

commit b1123ea6d3b3da25af5c8a9d843bd07ab63213f4
Author: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Date:   Tue Jul 26 15:23:09 2016 -0700

    mm: balloon: use general non-lru movable page feature

    Now, VM has a feature to migrate non-lru movable pages so balloon
    doesn't need custom migration hooks in migrate.c and compaction.c.


The only user of PG_balloon in general is
"include/linux/balloon_compaction.h", used effectively only by
virtio_balloon.

All such pages are allocated via balloon_page_alloc() and never set
reserved.

So to me it looks like PG_balloon could be easily reused, especially to
also exclude virtio-balloon pages from dumps.


-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-26  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-20 12:34 David Hildenbrand
2018-07-20 12:34 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] mm: clarify semantics of reserved pages David Hildenbrand
2018-07-23 10:48   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-20 12:34 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] kdump: include PG_reserved value in VMCOREINFO David Hildenbrand
2018-07-23 11:45 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] mm/kdump: exclude reserved pages in dumps Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-23 12:30   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23 17:20     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-24  7:25       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24  8:46         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-24  8:53           ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24  9:18             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-24 12:17         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-24 13:13           ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 13:27             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-24 13:35               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:13                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-25 13:51                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-25 14:20                     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-26  8:27                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-26  8:37                         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-24  9:47     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-24 11:19       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 12:22         ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-24 12:33           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-24 13:06           ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23 17:12   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-24  7:22     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24  9:48       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-07-26  8:22       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-07-26  8:30         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-26  8:45           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2018-07-26 19:50             ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-30  8:17               ` David Hildenbrand

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