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From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	kernel-team@meta.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
	Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 02/14] mm/sparse: Check memmap alignment
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 22:49:31 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2063FA31-1173-4F30-930D-86A0E546FB8A@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ctnfkw5zqneume6px2wqgdgusfdricr4uuonv7bfjheknrt2g@fdb5ceiiar4q>



> On Dec 22, 2025, at 22:03, Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 04:34:40PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 2025/12/18 23:09, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>>> The upcoming changes in compound_head() require memmap to be naturally
>>> aligned to the maximum folio size.
>>> Add a warning if it is not.
>>> A warning is sufficient as MAX_FOLIO_ORDER is very rarely used, so the
>>> kernel is still likely to be functional if this strict check fails.
>> 
>> Different architectures default to 2 MB alignment (mainly to
>> enable huge mappings), which only accommodates folios up to
>> 128 MB. Yet 1 GB huge pages are still fairly common, so
>> validating 16 GB (MAX_FOLIO_SIZE) alignment seems likely to
>> miss the most frequent case.
> 
> I don't follow. 16 GB check is more strict that anything smaller.
> How can it miss the most frequent case?

Sorry, I didn’t make myself clear. What I meant
is that if this warning triggers, it implies the
largest-sized folio isn’t properly aligned, and
the 1 GB folios are probably mis-aligned too.
Your commit message says
“MAX_FOLIO_ORDER is very rarely used,” but
I want to stress that 1 GB folios are actually
 common. If they’re also mis-aligned, we’re
quietly planting a land-mine. That’s why I’m
worried a mere warning isn’t enough—it
leaves a latent bug in the system.

If there’s a problem, we should stop right
here—this is the earliest place where it will surface.

As David assumed, if we expect to catch the
problem during testing, then I think VM_BUG_ON
would be more appropriate.

Thanks.

> 
>> I’m concerned that this might plant a hidden time bomb: it
>> could detonate at any moment in later code, silently triggering
>> memory corruption or similar failures. Therefore, I don’t
>> think a WARNING is a good choice.
> 
> We can upgrade it BUG_ON(), but I want to understand your logic here
> first.
> 
> --
>  Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-22 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-18 15:09 [PATCHv2 00/14] Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 01/14] mm: Move MAX_FOLIO_ORDER definition to mmzone.h Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 02/14] mm/sparse: Check memmap alignment Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22  8:34   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 14:02     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 14:18       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-22 14:52         ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 14:59           ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 14:55         ` Muchun Song
2025-12-23  9:38           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-23 11:26             ` Muchun Song
2025-12-24 14:13             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 14:49       ` Muchun Song [this message]
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 03/14] mm: Change the interface of prep_compound_tail() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22  2:55   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 04/14] mm: Rename the 'compound_head' field in the 'struct page' to 'compound_info' Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22  3:00   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 05/14] mm: Move set/clear_compound_head() next to compound_head() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22  3:06   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 06/14] mm: Rework compound_head() for power-of-2 sizeof(struct page) Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22  3:20   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 14:03     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-23  8:37       ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22  7:57   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22  9:45     ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 14:49       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 07/14] mm: Make page_zonenum() use head page Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 08/14] mm/hugetlb: Refactor code around vmemmap_walk Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22  5:54   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-22 15:00     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22 15:11       ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 09/14] mm/hugetlb: Remove fake head pages Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 10/14] mm: Drop fake head checks Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22  5:56   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 11/14] hugetlb: Remove VMEMMAP_SYNCHRONIZE_RCU Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22  6:00   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 12/14] mm/hugetlb: Remove hugetlb_optimize_vmemmap_key static key Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22  6:03   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 13/14] mm: Remove the branch from compound_head() Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22  6:30   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 14/14] hugetlb: Update vmemmap_dedup.rst Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-22  6:20   ` Muchun Song
2025-12-18 22:18 ` [PATCHv2 00/14] Eliminate fake head pages from vmemmap optimization Kiryl Shutsemau

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