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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] mm: LARGE_ANON_FOLIO for improved performance
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 10:37:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20469f02-d62d-d925-3536-d6a1f1099fda@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOUHufZwyNrNbnpgTR=o5O8__QE4NdNG=LTgUoB26bVvDfgBkA@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/08/2023 00:21, Yu Zhao wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 1:07 PM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 07/08/2023 06:24, Yu Zhao wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 3:52 AM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Introduce LARGE_ANON_FOLIO feature, which allows anonymous memory to be
>>>> allocated in large folios of a determined order. All pages of the large
>>>> folio are pte-mapped during the same page fault, significantly reducing
>>>> the number of page faults. The number of per-page operations (e.g. ref
>>>> counting, rmap management lru list management) are also significantly
>>>> reduced since those ops now become per-folio.
>>>>
>>>> The new behaviour is hidden behind the new LARGE_ANON_FOLIO Kconfig,
>>>> which defaults to disabled for now; The long term aim is for this to
>>>> defaut to enabled, but there are some risks around internal
>>>> fragmentation that need to be better understood first.
>>>>
>>>> When enabled, the folio order is determined as such: For a vma, process
>>>> or system that has explicitly disabled THP, we continue to allocate
>>>> order-0. THP is most likely disabled to avoid any possible internal
>>>> fragmentation so we honour that request.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, the return value of arch_wants_pte_order() is used. For vmas
>>>> that have not explicitly opted-in to use transparent hugepages (e.g.
>>>> where thp=madvise and the vma does not have MADV_HUGEPAGE), then
>>>> arch_wants_pte_order() is limited to 64K (or PAGE_SIZE, whichever is
>>>> bigger). This allows for a performance boost without requiring any
>>>> explicit opt-in from the workload while limitting internal
>>>> fragmentation.
>>>>
>>>> If the preferred order can't be used (e.g. because the folio would
>>>> breach the bounds of the vma, or because ptes in the region are already
>>>> mapped) then we fall back to a suitable lower order; first
>>>> PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER, then order-0.
>>>>
>>>> arch_wants_pte_order() can be overridden by the architecture if desired.
>>>> Some architectures (e.g. arm64) can coalsece TLB entries if a contiguous
>>>> set of ptes map physically contigious, naturally aligned memory, so this
>>>> mechanism allows the architecture to optimize as required.
>>>>
>>>> Here we add the default implementation of arch_wants_pte_order(), used
>>>> when the architecture does not define it, which returns -1, implying
>>>> that the HW has no preference. In this case, mm will choose it's own
>>>> default order.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  include/linux/pgtable.h |  13 ++++
>>>>  mm/Kconfig              |  10 +++
>>>>  mm/memory.c             | 166 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>>>>  3 files changed, 172 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/pgtable.h b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>>>> index 5063b482e34f..2a1d83775837 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/pgtable.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>>>> @@ -313,6 +313,19 @@ static inline bool arch_has_hw_pte_young(void)
>>>>  }
>>>>  #endif
>>>>
>>>> +#ifndef arch_wants_pte_order
>>>> +/*
>>>> + * Returns preferred folio order for pte-mapped memory. Must be in range [0,
>>>> + * PMD_SHIFT-PAGE_SHIFT) and must not be order-1 since THP requires large folios
>>>> + * to be at least order-2. Negative value implies that the HW has no preference
>>>> + * and mm will choose it's own default order.
>>>> + */
>>>> +static inline int arch_wants_pte_order(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       return -1;
>>>> +}
>>>> +#endif
>>>> +
>>>>  #ifndef __HAVE_ARCH_PTEP_GET_AND_CLEAR
>>>>  static inline pte_t ptep_get_and_clear(struct mm_struct *mm,
>>>>                                        unsigned long address,
>>>> diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
>>>> index 09130434e30d..fa61ea160447 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/Kconfig
>>>> +++ b/mm/Kconfig
>>>> @@ -1238,4 +1238,14 @@ config LOCK_MM_AND_FIND_VMA
>>>>
>>>>  source "mm/damon/Kconfig"
>>>>
>>>> +config LARGE_ANON_FOLIO
>>>> +       bool "Allocate large folios for anonymous memory"
>>>> +       depends on TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
>>>> +       default n
>>>> +       help
>>>> +         Use large (bigger than order-0) folios to back anonymous memory where
>>>> +         possible, even for pte-mapped memory. This reduces the number of page
>>>> +         faults, as well as other per-page overheads to improve performance for
>>>> +         many workloads.
>>>> +
>>>>  endmenu
>>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>>>> index 01f39e8144ef..64c3f242c49a 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>>>> @@ -4050,6 +4050,127 @@ vm_fault_t do_swap_page(struct vm_fault *vmf)
>>>>         return ret;
>>>>  }
>>>>
>>>> +static bool vmf_pte_range_changed(struct vm_fault *vmf, int nr_pages)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       int i;
>>>> +
>>>> +       if (nr_pages == 1)
>>>> +               return vmf_pte_changed(vmf);
>>>> +
>>>> +       for (i = 0; i < nr_pages; i++) {
>>>> +               if (!pte_none(ptep_get_lockless(vmf->pte + i)))
>>>> +                       return true;
>>>> +       }
>>>> +
>>>> +       return false;
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_LARGE_ANON_FOLIO
>>>> +#define ANON_FOLIO_MAX_ORDER_UNHINTED \
>>>> +               (ilog2(max_t(unsigned long, SZ_64K, PAGE_SIZE)) - PAGE_SHIFT)
>>>> +
>>>> +static int anon_folio_order(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       int order;
>>>> +
>>>> +       /*
>>>> +        * If THP is explicitly disabled for either the vma, the process or the
>>>> +        * system, then this is very likely intended to limit internal
>>>> +        * fragmentation; in this case, don't attempt to allocate a large
>>>> +        * anonymous folio.
>>>> +        *
>>>> +        * Else, if the vma is eligible for thp, allocate a large folio of the
>>>> +        * size preferred by the arch. Or if the arch requested a very small
>>>> +        * size or didn't request a size, then use PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER,
>>>> +        * which still meets the arch's requirements but means we still take
>>>> +        * advantage of SW optimizations (e.g. fewer page faults).
>>>> +        *
>>>> +        * Finally if thp is enabled but the vma isn't eligible, take the
>>>> +        * arch-preferred size and limit it to ANON_FOLIO_MAX_ORDER_UNHINTED.
>>>> +        * This ensures workloads that have not explicitly opted-in take benefit
>>>> +        * while capping the potential for internal fragmentation.
>>>> +        */
>>>> +
>>>> +       if ((vma->vm_flags & VM_NOHUGEPAGE) ||
>>>> +           test_bit(MMF_DISABLE_THP, &vma->vm_mm->flags) ||
>>>> +           !hugepage_flags_enabled())
>>>> +               order = 0;
>>>> +       else {
>>>> +               order = max(arch_wants_pte_order(), PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER);
>>>> +
>>>> +               if (!hugepage_vma_check(vma, vma->vm_flags, false, true, true))
>>>> +                       order = min(order, ANON_FOLIO_MAX_ORDER_UNHINTED);
>>>> +       }
>>>> +
>>>> +       return order;
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +static int alloc_anon_folio(struct vm_fault *vmf, struct folio **folio)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       int i;
>>>> +       gfp_t gfp;
>>>> +       pte_t *pte;
>>>> +       unsigned long addr;
>>>> +       struct vm_area_struct *vma = vmf->vma;
>>>> +       int prefer = anon_folio_order(vma);
>>>> +       int orders[] = {
>>>> +               prefer,
>>>> +               prefer > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER ? PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER : 0,
>>>> +               0,
>>>> +       };
>>>> +
>>>> +       *folio = NULL;
>>>> +
>>>> +       if (vmf_orig_pte_uffd_wp(vmf))
>>>> +               goto fallback;
>>>
>>> Per the discussion, we need to check hugepage_vma_check() for
>>> correctness of VM LM. I'd just check it here and fall back to order 0
>>> if that helper returns false.
>>
>> I'm not sure if either you haven't noticed the logic in anon_folio_order()
>> above, or whether you are making this suggestion because you disagree with the
>> subtle difference in my logic?
> 
> The latter, or more generally the policy you described earlier.
> 
>> My logic is deliberately not calling hugepage_vma_check() because that would
>> return false for the thp=madvise,mmap=unhinted case, whereas the policy I'm
>> implementing wants to apply LAF in that case.
>>
>>
>> My intended policy:
>>
>>                 | never     | madvise   | always
>> ----------------|-----------|-----------|-----------
>> no hint         | S         | LAF>S     | THP>LAF>S
>> MADV_HUGEPAGE   | S         | THP>LAF>S | THP>LAF>S
>> MADV_NOHUGEPAGE | S         | S         | S
>>
>>
>> What your suggestion would give:
>>
>>                 | never     | madvise   | always
>> ----------------|-----------|-----------|-----------
>> no hint         | S         | S         | THP>LAF>S
>> MADV_HUGEPAGE   | S         | THP>LAF>S | THP>LAF>S
>> MADV_NOHUGEPAGE | S         | S         | S
> 
> This is not what I'm suggesting.
> 
> Let me reiterate [1]:
>   My impression is we only agreed on one thing: at the current stage, we
>   should respect things we absolutely have to. We didn't agree on what
>   "never" means ("never 2MB" or "never >4KB"), and we didn't touch on
>   how "always" should behave at all.
> 
> And [2]:
>   (Thanks to David, now I agree that) we have to interpret MADV_NOHUGEPAGE
>   as nothing >4KB.
> 
> My final take [3]:
>   I agree these points require more discussion. But I don't think we
>   need to conclude them now, unless they cause correctness issues like
>   ignoring MADV_NOHUGEPAGE would.

Thanks, I've read all of these comments previously, and appreciate the time you
have put into the feedback. I'm not sure I fully agree with your point that we
don't need to conclude on a policy now; I certainly don't think we need the
whole thing in place on day 1, but I do think that whatever we put in should
strive to be a strict subset of where we think we are going. For example, if we
put something in with one policy (i.e. "never" only means "never 2MB") then find
a problem and have to change that to be more conservative, are we risking perf
regressions for any LAF users that started using it on day 1?

> 
> But I should have been clear about the parameters to
> hugepage_vma_check(): enforce_sysfs=false.

So hugepage_vma_check(..., smaps=false, in_pf=true, enforce_sysfs=false) would
give us:

                | prctl/fw  | sysfs     | sysfs     | sysfs
                | disable   | never     | madvise   | always
----------------|-----------|-----------|-----------|-----------
no hint         | S         | LAF>S     | LAF>S     | THP>LAF>S
MADV_HUGEPAGE   | S         | LAF>S     | THP>LAF>S | THP>LAF>S
MADV_NOHUGEPAGE | S         | S         | S         | S

Where "prctl/fw disable" trumps the sysfs setting.

I can certainly see the benefit of this approach; it gives us a way to enable
LAF while disabling THP (thp=never). It doesn't give us a way to enable THP
without enabling LAF though (unless you recompile with LAF disabled). Does
anyone see a problem with this?



> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CAOUHufYQTcOdKU=1mPq-fdLV7a66sHx1=EJpPpMVogciCNKO9A@mail.gmail.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CAOUHufafd4GNna2GKdSyQdW6CLVh0gxhNgeOc6t+ZOphwgw7tw@mail.gmail.com/
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CAOUHufYQTcOdKU=1mPq-fdLV7a66sHx1=EJpPpMVogciCNKO9A@mail.gmail.com/



  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-08  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-26  9:51 [PATCH v4 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26  9:51 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26  9:51 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] mm: LARGE_ANON_FOLIO for improved performance Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26 16:41   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-27  4:31     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-28 10:13       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-01  6:36         ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-01 23:30           ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-02  8:02           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-02  9:04             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-02 13:51             ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-08-03  8:05         ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-03  8:21           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03  8:37             ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-03  9:32               ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03  9:58                 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-03 10:27                   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 10:54                     ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-04  0:28           ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-01  6:18   ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-02  9:33     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-02 21:05       ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-03 10:24         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 12:43   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 14:21     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2023-08-04  0:19       ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04  2:16         ` Zi Yan
2023-08-04  3:35           ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04  9:06         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-04 18:53           ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-07 19:00             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 23:50     ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04  8:27       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-04 20:23         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-04 21:00           ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04 21:13             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-04 21:26               ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04 21:30                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-04 21:58                   ` Zi Yan
2023-08-05  2:50                     ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-08-07 17:45                       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-07 18:10                         ` Zi Yan
2023-08-08  9:58                           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-07  5:24   ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-07 19:07     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-07 23:21       ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-08  9:37         ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2023-08-08 17:57           ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-08 18:12             ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-09 16:08               ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26  9:51 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] arm64: mm: Override arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26  9:51 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] selftests/mm/cow: Generalize do_run_with_thp() helper Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26  9:51 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] selftests/mm/cow: Add large anon folio tests Ryan Roberts

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