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From: "John Stoffel" <john@stoffel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, aarcange@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	minchan@gmail.com, kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com,
	andi@firstfloor.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, mel@csn.ul.ie,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm v2 00/11] mm: scalable and unified arch_get_unmapped_area
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:03:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20453.59620.255516.321417@quad.stoffel.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120622144714.440f8529.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

>>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:

Andrew> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:24:58 -0400
Andrew> "John Stoffel" <john@stoffel.org> wrote:

>> >>>>> "Rik" == Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> writes:
>> 
Rik> A long time ago, we decided to limit the number of VMAs per
Rik> process to 64k. As it turns out, there actually are programs
Rik> using tens of thousands of VMAs.
>> 
>> 
Rik> Performance
>> 
Rik> Testing performance with a benchmark that allocates tens
Rik> of thousands of VMAs, unmaps them and mmaps them some more
Rik> in a loop, shows promising results.
>> 
>> How are the numbers for applications which only map a few VMAs?  Is
>> there any impact there?
>> 

Andrew> Johannes did a test for that: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/6/22/219

I don't see that in his results.  But maybe (probably) I don't
understand what types of applications this change is supposed to
help.  I guess I worry that this will just keep slowing down other
apps. 

His tests seemed to be for just one VMA remapped with thousands in
use.  Or am I missing the fact that all VMAs are in the same pool?  

Andrew> Some regression with such a workload is unavoidable, I expect.
Andrew> We have to work out whether the pros outweigh the cons.  This
Andrew> involves handwaving.

Yup, it does.  Proof by vigorous handwaving is a time honored
tradition.  

And I do see that the numbers aren't that much poorer, I just keep
thinking that if we can speed up the corner case, can't we also speed
up the normal case with a better algorithm or data structure?

John

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-23 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-21 21:57 Rik van Riel
2012-06-21 21:57 ` [PATCH -mm v2 01/11] mm: track free size between VMAs in VMA rbtree Rik van Riel
2012-06-22  9:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-22  9:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-22 14:11     ` Rik van Riel
2012-06-22 14:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-22 14:25         ` Rik van Riel
2012-06-22 14:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-22 15:41             ` Rik van Riel
2012-06-25 19:29               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-25 21:52                 ` Rik van Riel
2012-06-26  8:31                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-26 13:05                     ` Rik van Riel
2012-06-26 13:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-26 15:49                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-06-27 12:27                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-26  8:37                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-22 10:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-29 23:46   ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-07-03 21:37     ` Rik van Riel
2012-07-03 23:16       ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-07-04 10:12         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-21 21:57 ` [PATCH -mm v2 02/11] mm: rearrange vm_area_struct for fewer cache misses Rik van Riel
2012-06-21 21:57 ` [PATCH -mm v2 03/11] mm: vma_adjust: only call adjust_free_gap when needed Rik van Riel
2012-06-21 21:57 ` [PATCH -mm v2 04/11] rbtree: add helpers to find nearest uncle node Rik van Riel
2012-06-22  9:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-21 21:57 ` [PATCH -mm v2 05/11] mm: get unmapped area from VMA tree Rik van Riel
2012-06-30  1:33   ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-07-03  0:23     ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-06-30  2:42   ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-06-21 21:57 ` [PATCH -mm v2 06/11] mm: arbitrary address ranges for arch_get_unmapped_area Rik van Riel
2012-06-21 21:57 ` [PATCH -mm v2 07/11] mm: make cache alignment code generic Rik van Riel
2012-06-30  2:22   ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-06-21 21:57 ` [PATCH -mm v2 08/11] mm: remove x86 arch_get_unmapped_area(_topdown) Rik van Riel
2012-06-21 21:57 ` [PATCH -mm v2 09/11] mm: remove MIPS arch_get_unmapped_area code Rik van Riel
2012-06-21 21:57 ` [PATCH -mm v2 10/11] mm: remove ARM arch_get_unmapped_area functions Rik van Riel
2012-06-22 22:27   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-23 17:50     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-06-21 21:57 ` [PATCH -mm v2 11/11] mm: remove SH " Rik van Riel
2012-06-25  2:11   ` Paul Mundt
2012-06-22 14:24 ` [PATCH -mm v2 00/11] mm: scalable and unified arch_get_unmapped_area John Stoffel
2012-06-22 21:47   ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-23 16:03     ` John Stoffel [this message]
2012-06-22 15:01 ` Johannes Weiner

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