From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 17/18] mm: add free_frozen_pages_hint and put_page_hint APIs
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 09:44:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260421094049-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a41dd0c-7ad8-4d34-8bab-a713e16c3b29@kernel.org>
On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 03:30:53PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 4/21/26 15:16, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 12:56:00PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >> On 4/20/26 14:51, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> Add free_frozen_pages_hint(page, order, hints) to free a page
> >>> while marking it as pre-zeroed when PGHINT_ZEROED is set.
> >>> The PG_zeroed flag is set after __free_pages_prepare so it
> >>> survives on the free list.
> >>>
> >>> Add __folio_put_hint(), folio_put_hint(), and put_page_hint()
> >>> wrappers for the put_page path.
> >>
> >> Can we defer that change?
> >
> > We can - it's a dependency of the balloon deflate, which you asked
> > me to implement. I'm more interested in reporting, myself.
>
> Just to be clear, I said:
>
> "I'd assume ordinary inflating+deflating of the balloon would also end
> up with pre-zeroed pages. We'd just need a (mm/balloon.c -specific)
> interface to tell the buddy that the pages are zeroed."
>
> So while I think there will be value in that in the futur once we
> figure out a clean interface, I don't recall asking you to implement that?
Right. you also said:
Not blocking, but I don't want something that is too coupled to
free-page reporting optimizations in the buddy. The comment above
MAGIC_PAGE_ZEROED triggered my reaction.
so I interpreted this as meaning "it's nice to have (not blocking), but
you either need to implement this to demonstrate that indeed, it is not
too coupled, or prove in some other way that it is not too coupled".
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-21 13:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-20 12:51 [PATCH RFC v2 00/18] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/18] mm: page_alloc: propagate PageReported flag across buddy splits Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/18] mm: add pghint_t type and vma_alloc_folio_hints API Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-21 0:58 ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-21 13:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/18] mm: add PG_zeroed page flag for known-zero pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/18] mm: page_alloc: track PG_zeroed across buddy merges Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/18] mm: page_alloc: preserve PG_zeroed in try_to_claim_block Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/18] mm: page_alloc: thread pghint_t through get_page_from_freelist Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/18] mm: post_alloc_hook: use PG_zeroed to skip zeroing, return pghint_t Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/18] mm: hugetlb: thread pghint_t through buddy allocation chain Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/18] mm: hugetlb: use PG_zeroed for pool pages, skip redundant zeroing Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/18] mm: page_reporting: support host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/18] mm: skip zeroing in vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio for pre-zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-21 10:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-21 11:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-21 11:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-21 13:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/18] mm: skip zeroing in alloc_anon_folio " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/18] mm: skip zeroing in vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/18] mm: memfd: skip zeroing for pre-zeroed hugetlb pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/18] virtio_balloon: add host_zeroes_pages module parameter Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/18] mm: page_reporting: add flush parameter with page budget Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 12:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 17/18] mm: add free_frozen_pages_hint and put_page_hint APIs Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-21 10:56 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-21 13:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-21 13:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-21 13:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-04-21 14:07 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-20 12:51 ` [PATCH RFC v2 18/18] virtio_balloon: mark deflated pages as pre-zeroed Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-20 18:09 ` [syzbot ci] Re: mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages syzbot ci
2026-04-20 18:20 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/18] " David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-20 23:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-21 2:38 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-21 10:04 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-21 14:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-21 14:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-21 13:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-21 10:50 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-21 2:21 ` Gregory Price
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