From: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
To: Liew Rui Yan <aethernet65535@gmail.com>
Cc: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>, damon@lists.linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] mm/damon: reset thread status parameters upon kdamond termination
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 17:22:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260414002300.83328-1-sj@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260413185249.5921-1-aethernet65535@gmail.com>
On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 02:52:47 +0800 Liew Rui Yan <aethernet65535@gmail.com> wrote:
> Problem
> ========
Let's align the underline with the subject. Also, let's add one blank line
after the underline.
> When kdamond terminates unexpectedly, 'enabled' remains 'Y' and
> 'kdamond_pid' remains stale. This prevents user from restarting DAMON
> because both writing 'Y' and 'N' to 'enabled' will fail.
>
> "Unexpected termination" here means the kdamond exits without any user
> request (e.g., not by writing 'N' to 'enabled').
Could you please further explain when such termination can happen?
>
> User Impact
> ===========
> Once kdamond terminates this way, it cannot be restarted via sysfs
> because:
>
> 1. DAMON_LRU_SORT/DAMON_RECLAIM is built into the kernel, so it cannot
> be unloaded and reloaded at runtime.
I think this is quite obvious, so may better to be dropped.
> 2. Writing 'N' to 'enabled' fails because kdamond no longer exists;
> Writing 'Y' does nothing, as 'enabled' is already Y.
>
> As a result, the only way to restore DAMON functionality is a full
> system reboot.
Thank you for clarifying the user impact. I think this deserves Cc-ing
stable@.
I think 'Problem' and 'User Impact' can be unified into one section.
>
> Solution
> ========
> damon_commit_ctx() sets 'maybe_corrupted=true' at the beginning and only
> sets it to false upon successful completion. When 'maybe_corrupted'
> remains true, kdamond will terminate eventually.
This seems better to be explained earlier, on the problem section.
>
> Therefore:
> 1. In damon_{lru_sort, reclaim}_turn(): Add fallback logic to reset
> parameters when damon_stop() fails but kdamond is not running.
> 2. In damon_{lru_sort, reclaim}_apply_parameters(): Reset parameters
> when damon_commit_ctx() fails, as kdamond will terminate due to
> maybe_corrupted mechanism.
So the problem is that 'enable' parameter value is not trustworthy, and this
series is trying to make it trustworthy. I think it is bit complicated,
especially for stable@ fix. What about simply using more trustworthy
information, e.g.,
'''
--- a/mm/damon/reclaim.c
+++ b/mm/damon/reclaim.c
@@ -390,7 +390,7 @@ MODULE_PARM_DESC(addr_unit,
static int damon_reclaim_enabled_store(const char *val,
const struct kernel_param *kp)
{
- bool is_enabled = enabled;
+ bool is_enabled = false;
bool enable;
int err;
@@ -398,6 +398,9 @@ static int damon_reclaim_enabled_store(const char *val,
if (err)
return err;
+ if (ctx)
+ is_enabled = damon_is_running(ctx);
+
if (is_enabled == enable)
return 0;
'''
>
> Changes from RFC-v1
> (https://lore.kernel.org/20260330164347.12772-1-aethernet65535@gmail.com)
> - Remove RFC tag.
When dropping RFC tag, let's start from v1 again, from the next time.
Thanks,
SJ
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-14 0:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-13 18:52 Liew Rui Yan
2026-04-13 18:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/damon/lru_sort: " Liew Rui Yan
2026-04-13 19:54 ` (sashiko review) " Liew Rui Yan
2026-04-13 18:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/damon/reclaim: " Liew Rui Yan
2026-04-13 19:57 ` (sashiko review) " Liew Rui Yan
2026-04-13 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] mm/damon: " Liew Rui Yan
2026-04-14 0:28 ` SeongJae Park
2026-04-14 0:22 ` SeongJae Park [this message]
2026-04-14 0:34 ` SeongJae Park
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