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From: <xu.xin16@zte.com.cn>
To: <ljs@kernel.org>, <david@kernel.org>
Cc: <hughd@google.com>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<chengming.zhou@linux.dev>, <wang.yaxin@zte.com.cn>,
	<yang.yang29@zte.com.cn>, <michel@lespinasse.org>,
	<linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] ksm: Optimize rmap_walk_ksm by passing a suitable address range
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2026 18:06:05 +0800 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202604091806051535BJWZ_FTtdIm3Snk24ei_@zte.com.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <addoN3ur7GtiKOFf@lucifer>

> > >>> I'd completely forgotten that patch by now!  But it's dealing with a
> > >>> different issue; and note how it's intentionally leaving MADV_MERGEABLE
> > >>> on the vma itself, just using MADV_UNMERGEABLE (with &dummy) as an
> > >>> interface to CoW the KSM pages at that time, letting them be remerged after.
> > >
> > > Hmm yeah, we mark them unmergeable but don't update the VMA flags (since using
> > > &dummy), so they can just be merged later right?
> > >
> > > And then the:
> > >
> > > void rmap_walk_ksm(struct folio *folio, struct rmap_walk_control *rwc)
> > > {
> > > 	...
> > > 		const pgoff_t pgoff = rmap_item->address >> PAGE_SHIFT;
> > > 		...
> > > 		anon_vma_interval_tree_foreach(vmac, &anon_vma->rb_root,
> > > 					       pgoff, pgoff) {
> > > 			...
> > > 		}
> > > 	...
> > > }
> > >
> > > Would _assume_ that folio->pgoff == addr >> PAGE_SHIFT, which will no longer be
> > > the case here?
> >
> > I'm wondering whether we could figure the pgoff out, somehow, so we
> > wouldn't have to store it elsewhere.
> >
> > What we need is essentially what __folio_set_anon() would have done for
> > the original folio we replaced.
> >
> > 	folio->index = linear_page_index(vma, address);
> >
> > Could we obtain that from the anon_vma assigned to our rmap_item?
> >
> > pgoff_t pgoff;
> >
> > pgoff = (rmap_item->address - anon_vma->vma->vm_start) >> PAGE_SHIFT;
> > pgoff += anon_vma->vma->vm_pgoff;
> 
> anon_vma doesn't have a vma field :) it has anon_vma->rb_root which maps to all
> 'related' VMAs.

Yes, we cannot rely solely on anon_vma to locate all PTEs mapping this page; we
must also have the original page's pgoff. In fact, I believe only the current
vma->vm_pgoff is just necessary. I've examined the implementation of
anon_vma_interval_tree_foreach — it essentially iterates to find a suitable
VMA such that the provided pgoff falls within the VMA's range
	[vm_pgoff, vm_pgoff + vma_pages(v) - 1].

The root cause of the issue Hugh points is that the pgoff calculated from
rmap_item->address (which derives from vma->vm_start) is not the pgoff of
the page prior to merging. Consequently, the anon_vma_interval_tree_foreach traversal
cannot match the correct VMA satisfying vma_start_pgoff <= pgoff <= vma_end_pgoff.
This origins from an existing fact: if a user invokes mremap(), the new vma->vm_start
may changes, while the mapped page's index remains unchanged, but vma->vm_pgoff is updated
synchronously to ensure that the vma_address() calculation remains valid, like
rmap_walk_anon() in mm/rmap.c.

Based on the above, I think a simpler approach which does not increase the size
of the ksm_rmap_item struct below.

> 
> And we're already looking at what might be covered by the anon_vma by
> invoking anon_vma_interval_tree_foreach() on anon_vma->rb_root in [0,
> ULONG_MAX).
> 
> >
> > It would be the same adjustment everywhere we look in child processes,
> > because the moment they would mremap() would be where we would have
> > unshared.
> >
> > Just a thought after reading avc_start_pgoff ...
> 
> One interesting thing here is in the anon_vma_interval_tree_foreach() loop
> we check:
> 
> if (addr < vma->vm_start || addr >= vma->vm_end)
> 	continue;
> 
> Which is the same as saying 'hey we are ignoring remaps'.
> 
> But... if _we_ got remapped previously (the unsharing is only temporary),
> then we'd _still_ have an anon_vma with an old index != addr >> PAGE_SHIFT,
> and would still not be able to figure out the correct pgoff after sharing.
> 
> I wonder if we could just store the pgoff in the rmap_item though?
> 
> Because we unshare on remap, so we'd expect a new share after remapping, at
> which point we could account for the remapping by just setting
> rmap_item->pgoff = vma->vm_pgoff I think?

Can we just replace the stored anon_vma of "ksm_rmap_item" with the orig_vma
when KSM merging? Then, from rmap_item->orig_vma, we can directly obtain both
the anon_vma and the vm_pgoff, thereby enabling the location of all PTEs mapping
this page without any ambiguity.

Cheers, Xu


> 
> Then we're back in business.
> 
> Another way around this issue is to do the rmap_walk_ksm() loop for (addr
> >> PAGE_SHIFT) _first_, but that'd only be useful for walkers that can exit
> early once they find the mapping they care about, and I worry about 'some
> how' missing remapped cases, so probably not actually all that useful.
> 
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > David
> 
> Cheers, Lorenzo


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-09 10:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-12 11:28 [PATCH v3 0/2] KSM: Optimizations for rmap_walk_ksm xu.xin16
2026-02-12 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] ksm: Initialize the addr only once in rmap_walk_ksm xu.xin16
2026-02-12 11:30 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] ksm: Optimize rmap_walk_ksm by passing a suitable address range xu.xin16
2026-02-12 12:21   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-05  4:44   ` Hugh Dickins
2026-04-05 21:01     ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-07  9:43       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-04-07 21:21         ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-08  6:29           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-06  1:58     ` xu.xin16
2026-04-06  5:35       ` Hugh Dickins
2026-04-07  6:21         ` xu.xin16
2026-04-07  9:36           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-04-08 12:57             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09  9:18               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09  9:37                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09  9:41                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09  9:53                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09  9:56                       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09  9:55                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-09  9:59                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09 10:56                       ` 答复: " xu.xin16
2026-04-09 10:06                 ` xu.xin16 [this message]
2026-04-09 10:09                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-06  9:21     ` David Hildenbrand (arm)
2026-04-06  9:23       ` David Hildenbrand (arm)
2026-04-07  9:39     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)

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