From: WANG Rui <r@hev.cc>
To: ziy@nvidia.com
Cc: Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
baohua@kernel.org, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
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viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, willy@infradead.org, WANG Rui <r@hev.cc>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 05/10] mm/huge_memory: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS from file_thp_enabled()
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2026 12:07:41 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260329040742.17269-1-r@hev.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52CACB9A-A782-4D11-8B6F-66DA8D345C78@nvidia.com>
Hi Zi,
>> Now without READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS you're going to:
>>
>> | PF | MADV_COLLAPSE | khugepaged |
>> |-----------|---------------|------------|
>> large folio fs | ✓ | x | x |
>> large folio + r/o | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ |
>>
>> And intentionally leaving behind the 'not large folio fs, r/o' case because
>> those file systems need to implement large folio support.
>>
>> I guess we'll regress those users but we don't care?
>
> Yes. This also motivates FSes without large folio support to add large folio
> support instead of relying on READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS hack.
Interesting, thanks for making this feature unconditional.
From my experiments, this is going to be a performance regression.
Before this patch, even when the filesystem (e.g. btrfs without experimental)
didn't support large folios, READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS still allowed read-only
file-backed code segments to be collapsed into huge page mappings via khugepaged.
After this patch, FilePmdMapped will always be 0 unless the filesystem supports
large folios up to PMD order, and it doesn't look like that support will arrive
anytime soon [1].
Is there a reason we can't keep this hack while continuing to push filesystems
toward proper large folio support?
I'm currently working on making the ELF loader more THP-friendly by adjusting
the virtual address alignment of read-only code segments [2]. The data shows a
noticeable drop in iTLB misses, especially for programs whose text size is just
slightly larger than PMD_SIZE. That size profile is actually quite common for
real-world binaries when using 2M huge pages. This optimization relies on
READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS. If the availability of huge page mappings for code segments
ends up depending on filesystem support, it will be much harder to take advantage
of this in practice. [3]
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/ab2IIwKzmK9qwIlZ@casper.infradead.org/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20260313005211.882831-1-r@hev.cc/
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20260320160519.80962-1-r@hev.cc/
Thanks,
Rui
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-29 4:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-27 1:42 [PATCH v1 00/10] Remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Kconfig Zi Yan
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 01/10] mm: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Kconfig option Zi Yan
2026-03-27 11:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 13:33 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27 14:39 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 02/10] mm/khugepaged: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS check Zi Yan
2026-03-27 7:29 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 7:35 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 9:44 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-27 12:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 13:45 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-27 14:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 14:26 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-27 14:31 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 15:00 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 16:22 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 16:30 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-28 2:29 ` Baolin Wang
2026-03-27 12:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 14:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 14:46 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 13:37 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27 14:43 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 03/10] mm: fs: remove filemap_nr_thps*() functions and their users Zi Yan
2026-03-27 9:32 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 12:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 13:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27 14:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 15:05 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-01 14:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 15:32 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-01 19:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 20:33 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-02 14:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-02 14:38 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 04/10] fs: remove nr_thps from struct address_space Zi Yan
2026-03-27 12:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 14:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-30 3:06 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 05/10] mm/huge_memory: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS from file_thp_enabled() Zi Yan
2026-03-27 12:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 15:12 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 15:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 15:43 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 16:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 16:12 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 16:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-29 4:07 ` WANG Rui [this message]
2026-03-30 11:17 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-30 14:35 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-30 16:09 ` WANG Rui
2026-03-30 16:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-01 14:38 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 14:53 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 06/10] mm/huge_memory: remove folio split check for READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Zi Yan
2026-03-27 12:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-30 9:15 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 07/10] mm/truncate: use folio_split() in truncate_inode_partial_folio() Zi Yan
2026-03-27 3:33 ` Lance Yang
2026-03-27 13:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 15:35 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-28 9:54 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-28 9:54 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 08/10] fs/btrfs: remove a comment referring to READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Zi Yan
2026-03-27 13:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 09/10] selftests/mm: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS in khugepaged Zi Yan
2026-03-27 13:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 1:42 ` [PATCH v1 10/10] selftests/mm: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS from comments in guard-regions Zi Yan
2026-03-27 13:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 13:46 ` [PATCH v1 00/10] Remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Kconfig David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27 14:26 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-27 14:27 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27 14:30 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-05 17:38 ` Nico Pache
2026-04-06 1:59 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-06 16:17 ` Nico Pache
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