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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Dmitry Ilvokhin <d@ilvokhin.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@kernel.org>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
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	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] mm: zone lock tracepoint instrumentation
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2026 17:17:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260309171700.063318b5@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa8xawMxLeUjkyHx@casper.infradead.org>

On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 20:45:31 +0000
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 09, 2026 at 03:13:17PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > The biggest issue with making a generic light weight LOCK_STAT is that
> > locks are extremely optimized. Any addition of generic lock encoding will
> > cause a noticeable overhead when compiled in, even when disabled.  
> 
> I'm not sure that's true.  Taking the current Debian kernel config
> leads to a "call" instruction to acquire a spinlock:
> 
> void __insert_inode_hash(struct inode *inode, unsigned long hashval)
> {
>         struct hlist_head *b = inode_hashtable + hash(inode->i_sb, hashval);
> 
>         spin_lock(&inode_hash_lock);
>         spin_lock(&inode->i_lock);
>         hlist_add_head_rcu(&inode->i_hash, b);
>         spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
>         spin_unlock(&inode_hash_lock);
> }
> 
> compiles to:
> 
> [...]
>      280:       23 35 00 00 00 00       and    0x0(%rip),%esi        # 286 <__insert_inode_hash+0x56>
>                         282: R_X86_64_PC32      .data..ro_after_init+0x10
>      286:       48 8d 2c f0             lea    (%rax,%rsi,8),%rbp
>      28a:       e8 00 00 00 00          call   28f <__insert_inode_hash+0x5f>
>                         28b: R_X86_64_PLT32     _raw_spin_lock-0x4
>      28f:       4c 89 e7                mov    %r12,%rdi
>      292:       e8 00 00 00 00          call   297 <__insert_inode_hash+0x67>
>                         293: R_X86_64_PLT32     _raw_spin_lock-0x4
> [...]

Ah, you're correct. Looks like it's an arch specific thing. I was going
back to my memory from around 2006, but it appears that only a few archs
inline spinlocks anymore. Thomas made it a bit easier to see what does and
does not do that (in 2009).

  6beb000923882 ("locking: Make inlining decision Kconfig based")

So, perhaps adding code to the spinlocks will not be as much of a hit on I$.

> (The spinlock code is too complex for me to follow what config options
> influence whether it's a function call; you probably have enough of it
> in your head that you'd know)

Yeah, I feel like I'm always relearning the code every time I have to jump
in and understand it again.

> 
> > The other issue is the data we store for the lock. A lock is usually just a
> > word (or long) in size, embedded in a structure. LOCKDEP and LOCK_STAT adds
> > a key per lock. This increases the data size of the kernel.  
> 
> It does, but perhaps for a light weight lockstat, we could do better
> than that.  For example it could use the return address to look up
> which lock is being accessed rather than embedding a key in each lock.

Right.

-- Steve


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-09 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-27 16:00 Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mm: introduce zone lock wrappers Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:36   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-28  1:13   ` Zi Yan
2026-02-28 16:23   ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-02 13:34   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] mm: convert zone lock users to wrappers Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:39   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-02 15:22     ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-28  1:14   ` Zi Yan
2026-03-02 13:42   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] mm: convert compaction to zone lock wrappers Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:39   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-28  1:16   ` Zi Yan
2026-02-28 16:31   ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-02 14:02   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] mm: rename zone->lock to zone->_lock Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:40   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-28  1:17   ` Zi Yan
2026-03-02 14:10   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-02 22:37     ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-03 14:25       ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-04  1:50         ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-04 13:01           ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-04 15:13             ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-04 15:17               ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-05  9:27               ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-05 14:55                 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-05 18:16                 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-05 18:59                   ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-06  1:20                     ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-06  8:05                     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-06 10:30   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] mm: add tracepoints for zone lock Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 19:46   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-02 15:18     ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-02 14:16   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-09 13:10 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] mm: zone lock tracepoint instrumentation Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-09 14:21   ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-09 14:47     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-09 19:13       ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-09 20:45         ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-09 21:17           ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2026-03-16 17:40             ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-19 13:22               ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-24 23:39                 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 12:14                   ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-25 14:19                     ` Steven Rostedt

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