From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Dmitry Ilvokhin <d@ilvokhin.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
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Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
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Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] mm: zone lock tracepoint instrumentation
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2026 17:17:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260309171700.063318b5@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa8xawMxLeUjkyHx@casper.infradead.org>
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 20:45:31 +0000
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 09, 2026 at 03:13:17PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > The biggest issue with making a generic light weight LOCK_STAT is that
> > locks are extremely optimized. Any addition of generic lock encoding will
> > cause a noticeable overhead when compiled in, even when disabled.
>
> I'm not sure that's true. Taking the current Debian kernel config
> leads to a "call" instruction to acquire a spinlock:
>
> void __insert_inode_hash(struct inode *inode, unsigned long hashval)
> {
> struct hlist_head *b = inode_hashtable + hash(inode->i_sb, hashval);
>
> spin_lock(&inode_hash_lock);
> spin_lock(&inode->i_lock);
> hlist_add_head_rcu(&inode->i_hash, b);
> spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
> spin_unlock(&inode_hash_lock);
> }
>
> compiles to:
>
> [...]
> 280: 23 35 00 00 00 00 and 0x0(%rip),%esi # 286 <__insert_inode_hash+0x56>
> 282: R_X86_64_PC32 .data..ro_after_init+0x10
> 286: 48 8d 2c f0 lea (%rax,%rsi,8),%rbp
> 28a: e8 00 00 00 00 call 28f <__insert_inode_hash+0x5f>
> 28b: R_X86_64_PLT32 _raw_spin_lock-0x4
> 28f: 4c 89 e7 mov %r12,%rdi
> 292: e8 00 00 00 00 call 297 <__insert_inode_hash+0x67>
> 293: R_X86_64_PLT32 _raw_spin_lock-0x4
> [...]
Ah, you're correct. Looks like it's an arch specific thing. I was going
back to my memory from around 2006, but it appears that only a few archs
inline spinlocks anymore. Thomas made it a bit easier to see what does and
does not do that (in 2009).
6beb000923882 ("locking: Make inlining decision Kconfig based")
So, perhaps adding code to the spinlocks will not be as much of a hit on I$.
> (The spinlock code is too complex for me to follow what config options
> influence whether it's a function call; you probably have enough of it
> in your head that you'd know)
Yeah, I feel like I'm always relearning the code every time I have to jump
in and understand it again.
>
> > The other issue is the data we store for the lock. A lock is usually just a
> > word (or long) in size, embedded in a structure. LOCKDEP and LOCK_STAT adds
> > a key per lock. This increases the data size of the kernel.
>
> It does, but perhaps for a light weight lockstat, we could do better
> than that. For example it could use the return address to look up
> which lock is being accessed rather than embedding a key in each lock.
Right.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-09 21:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-27 16:00 Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mm: introduce zone lock wrappers Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:36 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-28 1:13 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-28 16:23 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-02 13:34 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] mm: convert zone lock users to wrappers Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:39 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-02 15:22 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-28 1:14 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-02 13:42 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] mm: convert compaction to zone lock wrappers Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:39 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-28 1:16 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-28 16:31 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-02 14:02 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] mm: rename zone->lock to zone->_lock Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 20:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-28 1:17 ` Zi Yan
2026-03-02 14:10 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-02 22:37 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-03 14:25 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-04 1:50 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-04 13:01 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-04 15:13 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-04 15:17 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-05 9:27 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-05 14:55 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-05 18:16 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-05 18:59 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-06 1:20 ` SeongJae Park
2026-03-06 8:05 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-06 10:30 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-02-27 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] mm: add tracepoints for zone lock Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-02-27 19:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-02 15:18 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-02 14:16 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-09 13:10 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] mm: zone lock tracepoint instrumentation Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-09 14:21 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-09 14:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-09 19:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-09 20:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-09 21:17 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2026-03-16 17:40 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-19 13:22 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-24 23:39 ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-25 12:14 ` Dmitry Ilvokhin
2026-03-25 14:19 ` Steven Rostedt
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