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From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@redhat.com>
To: "T.J. Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>
Cc: "Eric Chanudet" <echanude@redhat.com>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Benjamin Gaignard" <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	"Brian Starkey" <Brian.Starkey@arm.com>,
	"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
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	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Albert Esteve" <aesteve@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, "Yosry Ahmed" <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] dma-buf: heaps: cma: enable dmem cgroup accounting
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2026 10:42:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260224-terrestrial-jaguarundi-of-influence-e3ccf1@houat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABdmKX0LpKJ9tw48oQh7=3CF0UR5uFtgo0OMwQhHBB40LnijyQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi TJ,

On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 05:14:42PM -0800, T.J. Mercier wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 9:15 AM Eric Chanudet <echanude@redhat.com> wrote:
> > An earlier series[1] from Maxime introduced dmem to the cma allocator in
> > an attempt to use it generally for dma-buf. Restart from there and apply
> > the charge in the narrower context of the CMA dma-buf heap instead.
> >
> > In line with introducing cgroup to the system heap[2], this behavior is
> > enabled based on dma_heap.mem_accounting, disabled by default.
> >
> > dmem is chosen for CMA heaps as it allows limits to be set for each
> > region backing each heap. The charge is only put in the dma-buf heap for
> > now as it guaranties it can be accounted against a userspace process
> > that requested the allocation.
> 
> But CMA memory is system memory, and regular (non-CMA) movable
> allocations can occur out of these CMA areas. So this splits system
> memory accounting between memcg (from [2]) and dmem. If I want to put
> a limit on system memory use I have to adjust multiple limits (memcg +
> dmems) and know how to divide the total between them all.
> 
> How do you envision using this combination of different controllers?

I feel like it can be argued either way, and I don't really see a way
out of supporting both.

Like you pointed out, CMA can indeed be seen as system memory, but it's
also a limited pool that you might want to place arbitrary limits on
since, unlike system memory, it can't be reclaimed, will not trigger the
OOM killer, and more generally is a much more sparse resource.

Maxime

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-02-24  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-18 17:14 Eric Chanudet
2026-02-18 17:14 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] cma: Register dmem region for each cma region Eric Chanudet
2026-02-18 17:14 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] cma: Provide accessor to cma dmem region Eric Chanudet
2026-02-18 17:14 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] dma-buf: heaps: cma: charge each cma heap's dmem Eric Chanudet
2026-02-19  7:17   ` Christian König
2026-02-19 17:10     ` Eric Chanudet
2026-02-20  8:16       ` Christian König
2026-02-23 16:14         ` Eric Chanudet
2026-02-19  9:16   ` Maxime Ripard
2026-02-19 17:21     ` Eric Chanudet
2026-02-19  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] dma-buf: heaps: cma: enable dmem cgroup accounting Albert Esteve
2026-02-20  1:14 ` T.J. Mercier
2026-02-20  9:45   ` Christian König
2026-02-23 19:39     ` Eric Chanudet
2026-02-24  9:43     ` Maxime Ripard
2026-02-24 10:32       ` Christian König
2026-02-24  9:42   ` Maxime Ripard [this message]

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