From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Dave Chinner <dgc@kernel.org>
Cc: Ojaswin Mujoo <ojaswin@linux.ibm.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Pankaj Raghav <pankaj.raghav@linux.dev>,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>,
djwong@kernel.org, john.g.garry@oracle.com, willy@infradead.org,
hch@lst.de, ritesh.list@gmail.com,
Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
dchinner@redhat.com, Javier Gonzalez <javier.gonz@samsung.com>,
gost.dev@samsung.com, tytso@mit.edu, p.raghav@samsung.com,
vi.shah@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Buffered atomic writes
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2026 07:49:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260218064942.GB8881@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aZUHHvNl6cQr-uwd@dread>
On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 11:26:06AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> ISTR mentioning that we should be doing exactly this (grab page
> cache pages, fill them and submit them through the DIO path) for
> O_DSYNC buffered writethrough IO a long time again.
Yes, multiple times. And I did a few more times since then.
> Regardless, we are here again with proposals for RWF_ATOMIC and
> RWF_WRITETHROUGH and a suggestion that maybe we should vector
> buffered writethrough via the DIO path.....
>
> Perhaps it's time to do this?
Yes.
> FWIW, the other thing that write-through via the DIO path enables is
> true async O_DSYNC buffered IO. Right now O_DSYNC buffered writes
> block waiting on IO completion through generic_sync_write() ->
> vfs_fsync_range(), even when issued through AIO paths. Vectoring it
> through the DIO path avoids the blocking fsync path in IO submission
> as it runs in the async DIO completion path if it is needed....
It's only true if we can do the page cache updates non-blocking, but
in many cases that should indeed be possible.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-18 6:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-13 10:20 Pankaj Raghav
2026-02-13 13:32 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2026-02-16 9:52 ` Pankaj Raghav
2026-02-16 15:45 ` Andres Freund
2026-02-17 12:06 ` Jan Kara
2026-02-17 12:42 ` Pankaj Raghav
2026-02-17 16:21 ` Andres Freund
2026-02-18 1:04 ` Dave Chinner
2026-02-18 6:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-18 23:42 ` Dave Chinner
2026-02-17 16:13 ` Andres Freund
2026-02-17 18:27 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2026-02-17 18:42 ` Andres Freund
2026-02-18 17:37 ` Jan Kara
2026-02-18 21:04 ` Andres Freund
2026-02-19 0:32 ` Dave Chinner
2026-02-17 18:33 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2026-02-17 17:20 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2026-02-18 17:42 ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2026-02-18 20:22 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2026-02-16 11:38 ` Jan Kara
2026-02-16 13:18 ` Pankaj Raghav
2026-02-17 18:36 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2026-02-16 15:57 ` Andres Freund
2026-02-17 18:39 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2026-02-18 0:26 ` Dave Chinner
2026-02-18 6:49 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-02-18 12:54 ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2026-02-15 9:01 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-02-17 5:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-17 9:23 ` [Lsf-pc] " Amir Goldstein
2026-02-17 15:47 ` Andres Freund
2026-02-17 22:45 ` Dave Chinner
2026-02-18 4:10 ` Andres Freund
2026-02-18 6:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-18 6:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-20 10:08 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2026-02-20 15:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
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