From: Yunjeong Mun <yunjeong.mun@sk.com>
To: sj@kernel.org
Cc: honggyu.kim@sk.com, kernel_team@skhynix.com,
Ravi Jonnalagadda <ravis.opensrc@gmail.com>,
damon@lists.linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, corbet@lwn.net, bijan311@gmail.com,
ajayjoshi@micron.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] mm/damon: Add node_sys_bp quota goal metric for
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 11:25:35 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260204022537.814-1-yunjeong.mun@sk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260124015045.78075-1-sj@kernel.org>
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 05:50:43PM -0800, SeongJae Park wrote:
> Cc-ing SK hynix folks (Honggyu and Yunjeong) for quota auto-tuning behavior
> confusion (not stop immediately after satisfying the goal) I discuss below.
>
Hi Seonjae, thanks for Cc-ing us :)
>
> Please note that the goal-based quota auto-tuning works in proportional way,
> preferring small steps and "eventual" goal convergence. As a result, migration
> will occur a few more times until it is completely stopped after the goal is
> satisfied. Unless there is another scheme that migrates pages into node 0, you
> may end up having node 0 having a bit less than the 40% memory.
>
> >
> > No oscillation - migration stops when target state is reached.
>
> So, little bit of oscillation could still happen. Hopefully that shouldn't be
> significant, though.
>
> IIRC, SK hynix people also confused with the behavior when they experimented
> migrate_{hot,cold} action with NODE_MEM_USED_BP goal based quota auto-tuning,
> but using only a single scheme that does migration in a single direction.
> Because this is at least second time it made confusion, if you need, maybe I
> can try to add a feature for making DAMOS immediately stops after the goal is
> satisfied. Let me know if such new feature can be useful for you. Cc-ing SK
> hynix people (Honggyu and Yunjeong) so that they can correct me if my memory is
> broken, or answer if the new feature I described here can be useful for them.
>
Yes, you're absolutely right. Currently, esz(effective size) starts from 0 and
esz gradually increases as `current` approaches `target`.
Once `current` reaches `target`, `esz` then begins to decrease.
However, we observed that even after `current` hits `target`,
migration still continues relatively aggressively - because `esz` remains high,
and it takes time for it to decrease.
To address this, we previously suggested that initializing `esz` at `target`
(or something suitably large value, rather than 0) and letting it gradually
decrease as `current` gets closer to `target`.
This would allow for stronger migration when `current` is far form `target`,
and gradually weaken migration as `current` approaches `target`.
Such a feature would be useful for us to experiment with tiered memory system :)
Best Regards,
Yunjeong
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-04 2:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-23 4:57 [RFC PATCH 0/5] mm/damon: Add node_sys_bp quota goal metric for PA-based migration control Ravi Jonnalagadda
2026-01-23 4:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] mm/damon/core: add DAMOS_QUOTA_NODE_SYS_BP metric Ravi Jonnalagadda
2026-01-23 4:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] mm/damon: add get_goal_metric() op and PA provider Ravi Jonnalagadda
2026-01-23 4:57 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/damon/core: add new ops-specific goal metric Ravi Jonnalagadda
2026-01-23 4:57 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] mm/damon/paddr: capacity clamp and directional early-exit for node_sys_bp Ravi Jonnalagadda
2026-01-23 4:57 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] mm/damon/sysfs-schemes: accept "node_sys_bp" in goal's target_metric Ravi Jonnalagadda
2026-01-24 1:50 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] mm/damon: Add node_sys_bp quota goal metric for PA-based migration control SeongJae Park
2026-01-27 18:52 ` Ravi Jonnalagadda
2026-01-28 1:25 ` SeongJae Park
2026-02-12 6:27 ` SeongJae Park
2026-02-04 2:25 ` Yunjeong Mun [this message]
2026-02-04 6:06 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] mm/damon: Add node_sys_bp quota goal metric for SeongJae Park
2026-02-12 6:30 ` SeongJae Park
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