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From: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: Gavin Guo <gavinguo@igalia.com>,
	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>,
	david@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, riel@surriel.com,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@suse.cz, harry.yoo@oracle.com,
	jannh@google.com, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/huge_memory: fix early failure try_to_migrate() when split huge pmd for shared thp
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2026 00:00:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260203000035.opgq74myrja54zir@master> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D8CC775-A86C-4D80-ADB3-6F5CD0FF9330@nvidia.com>

On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 09:20:35AM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
>On 1 Feb 2026, at 8:04, Gavin Guo wrote:
>
>> On 2/1/26 11:39, Zi Yan wrote:
>>> On 31 Jan 2026, at 21:09, Wei Yang wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 09:44:10PM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
>>>>> On 30 Jan 2026, at 18:00, Wei Yang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Commit 60fbb14396d5 ("mm/huge_memory: adjust try_to_migrate_one() and
>>>>>> split_huge_pmd_locked()") return false unconditionally after
>>>>>> split_huge_pmd_locked() which may fail early during try_to_migrate() for
>>>>>> shared thp. This will lead to unexpected folio split failure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One way to reproduce:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Create an anonymous thp range and fork 512 children, so we have a
>>>>>>      thp shared mapped in 513 processes. Then trigger folio split with
>>>>>>      /sys/kernel/debug/split_huge_pages debugfs to split the thp folio to
>>>>>>      order 0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without the above commit, we can successfully split to order 0.
>>>>>> With the above commit, the folio is still a large folio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason is the above commit return false after split pmd
>>>>>> unconditionally in the first process and break try_to_migrate().
>>>>>
>>>>> The reasoning looks good to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The tricky thing in above reproduce method is current debugfs interface
>>>>>> leverage function split_huge_pages_pid(), which will iterate the whole
>>>>>> pmd range and do folio split on each base page address. This means it
>>>>>> will try 512 times, and each time split one pmd from pmd mapped to pte
>>>>>> mapped thp. If there are less than 512 shared mapped process,
>>>>>> the folio is still split successfully at last. But in real world, we
>>>>>> usually try it for once.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch fixes this by removing the unconditional false return after
>>>>>> split_huge_pmd_locked(). Later, we may introduce a true fail early if
>>>>>> split_huge_pmd_locked() does fail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Fixes: 60fbb14396d5 ("mm/huge_memory: adjust try_to_migrate_one() and split_huge_pmd_locked()")
>>>>>> Cc: Gavin Guo <gavinguo@igalia.com>
>>>>>> Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
>>>>>> Cc: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
>>>>>> Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>   mm/rmap.c | 1 -
>>>>>>   1 file changed, 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> index 618df3385c8b..eed971568d65 100644
>>>>>> --- a/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> @@ -2448,7 +2448,6 @@ static bool try_to_migrate_one(struct folio *folio, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>>>>>   			if (flags & TTU_SPLIT_HUGE_PMD) {
>>>>>>   				split_huge_pmd_locked(vma, pvmw.address,
>>>>>>   						      pvmw.pmd, true);
>>>>>> -				ret = false;
>>>>>>   				page_vma_mapped_walk_done(&pvmw);
>>>>>>   				break;
>>>>>>   			}
>>>>>
>>>>> How about the patch below? It matches the pattern of set_pmd_migration_entry() below.
>>>>> Basically, continue if the operation is successful, break otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>> index 618df3385c8b..83cc9d98533e 100644
>>>>> --- a/mm/rmap.c
>>>>> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>> @@ -2448,9 +2448,7 @@ static bool try_to_migrate_one(struct folio *folio, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>>>> 			if (flags & TTU_SPLIT_HUGE_PMD) {
>>>>> 				split_huge_pmd_locked(vma, pvmw.address,
>>>>> 						      pvmw.pmd, true);
>>>>> -				ret = false;
>>>>> -				page_vma_mapped_walk_done(&pvmw);
>>>>> -				break;
>>>>> +				continue;
>>>>> 			}
>>>>
>>>> Per my understanding if @freeze is trur, split_huge_pmd_locked() may "fail" as
>>>> the comment says:
>>>>
>>>> 		 * Without "freeze", we'll simply split the PMD, propagating the
>>>> 		 * PageAnonExclusive() flag for each PTE by setting it for
>>>> 		 * each subpage -- no need to (temporarily) clear.
>>>> 		 *
>>>> 		 * With "freeze" we want to replace mapped pages by
>>>> 		 * migration entries right away. This is only possible if we
>>>> 		 * managed to clear PageAnonExclusive() -- see
>>>> 		 * set_pmd_migration_entry().
>>>> 		 *
>>>> 		 * In case we cannot clear PageAnonExclusive(), split the PMD
>>>> 		 * only and let try_to_migrate_one() fail later.
>>>>
>>>> While currently we don't return the status of split_huge_pmd_locked() to
>>>> indicate whether it does replaced PMD with migration entries successfully. So
>>>> we are not sure this operation succeed.
>>>
>>> This is the right reasoning. This means to properly handle it, split_huge_pmd_locked()
>>> needs to return whether it inserts migration entries or not when freeze is true.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another difference from set_pmd_migration_entry() is split_huge_pmd_locked()
>>>> would change the page table from PMD mapped to PTE mapped.
>>>> page_vma_mapped_walk() can handle it now for (pvmw->pmd && !pvmw->pte), but I
>>>> am not sure this is what we expected. For example, in try_to_unmap_one(), we
>>>> use page_vma_mapped_walk_restart() after pmd splitted.
>>>>
>>>> So I prefer just remove the "ret = false" for a fix. Not sure this is
>>>> reasonable to you.
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking two things after this fix:
>>>>
>>>>    * add one similar test in selftests
>>>>    * let split_huge_pmd_locked() return value to indicate freeze is degrade to
>>>>      !freeze, and fail early on try_to_migrate() like the thp migration branch
>>>>
>>>> Look forward your opinion on whether it worth to do it.
>>>
>>> This is not the right fix, neither was mine above. Because before commit 60fbb14396d5,
>>> the code handles PAE properly. If PAE is cleared, PMD is split into PTEs and each
>>> PTE becomes a migration entry, page_vma_mapped_walk(&pvmw) returns false,
>>> and try_to_migrate_one() returns true. If PAE is not cleared, PMD is split into PTEs
>>> and each PTE is not a migration entry, inside while (page_vma_mapped_walk(&pvmw)),
>>> PAE will be attempted to get cleared again and it will fail again, leading to
>>> try_to_migrate_one() returns false. After commit 60fbb14396d5, no matter PAE is
>>> cleared or not, try_to_migrate_one() always returns false. It causes folio split
>>> failures for shared PMD THPs.
>>>
>>> Now with your fix (and mine above), no matter PAE is cleared or not, try_to_migrate_one()
>>> always returns true. It just flips the code to a different issue. So the proper fix
>>> is to let split_huge_pmd_locked() returns whether it inserts migration entries or not
>>> and do the same pattern as THP migration code path.
>>
>> How about aligning with the try_to_unmap_one()? The behavior would be the same before applying the commit 60fbb14396d5:
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>> index 7b9879ef442d..0c96f0883013 100644
>> --- a/mm/rmap.c
>> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>> @@ -2333,9 +2333,9 @@ static bool try_to_migrate_one(struct folio *folio, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>                         if (flags & TTU_SPLIT_HUGE_PMD) {
>>                                 split_huge_pmd_locked(vma, pvmw.address,
>>                                                       pvmw.pmd, true);
>> -                               ret = false;
>> -                               page_vma_mapped_walk_done(&pvmw);
>> -                               break;
>> +                               flags &= ~TTU_SPLIT_HUGE_PMD;
>> +                               page_vma_mapped_walk_restart(&pvmw);
>> +                               continue;
>>                         }
>>  #ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_THP_MIGRATION
>>                         pmdval = pmdp_get(pvmw.pmd);
>
>Yes, it works and definitely needs a comment like "After split_huge_pmd_locked(), restart
>the walk to detect PageAnonExclusive handling failure in __split_huge_pmd_locked()".
>The change is good for backporting, but an additional patch to fix it properly by adding
>a return value to split_huge_pmd_locked() is also necessary.
>

If my understanding is correct, this approach is good for backporting.

And yes, we could further improve it by return a value to indicate whether
split_huge_pmd_locked() do split to migration entry.

Thanks both for your thoughtful inputs.

-- 
Wei Yang
Help you, Help me


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-03  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-30 23:00 Wei Yang
2026-01-31  2:44 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-01  2:09   ` Wei Yang
2026-02-01  3:39     ` Zi Yan
2026-02-01 13:04       ` Gavin Guo
2026-02-01 14:20         ` Zi Yan
2026-02-03  0:00           ` Wei Yang [this message]
2026-02-03  0:07             ` Zi Yan
2026-02-03 13:04               ` Wei Yang
2026-02-03 13:07                 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-03 13:20           ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 23:57       ` Wei Yang
2026-02-03  0:05         ` Zi Yan

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