From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] targeted TLB sync IPIs for lockless page table
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2026 13:50:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260202125030.GB1395266@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260202110329.74397-1-lance.yang@linux.dev>
On Mon, Feb 02, 2026 at 07:00:16PM +0800, Lance Yang wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 10:54:14 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 02, 2026 at 03:45:54PM +0800, Lance Yang wrote:
> > > When freeing or unsharing page tables we send an IPI to synchronize with
> > > concurrent lockless page table walkers (e.g. GUP-fast). Today we broadcast
> > > that IPI to all CPUs, which is costly on large machines and hurts RT
> > > workloads[1].
> > >
> > > This series makes those IPIs targeted. We track which CPUs are currently
> > > doing a lockless page table walk for a given mm (per-CPU
> > > active_lockless_pt_walk_mm). When we need to sync, we only IPI those CPUs.
> > > GUP-fast and perf_get_page_size() set/clear the tracker around their walk;
> > > tlb_remove_table_sync_mm() uses it and replaces the previous broadcast in
> > > the free/unshare paths.
> >
> > I'm confused. This only happens when !PT_RECLAIM, because if PT_RECLAIM
> > __tlb_remove_table_one() actually uses RCU.
> >
> > So why are you making things more expensive for no reason?
>
> You're right that when CONFIG_PT_RECLAIM is set, __tlb_remove_table_one()
> uses call_rcu() and we never call any sync there — this series doesn't
> touch that path.
>
> In the !PT_RECLAIM table-free path (same __tlb_remove_table_one() branch
> that calls tlb_remove_table_sync_mm(tlb->mm) before __tlb_remove_table),
> we're not adding any new sync; we're replacing the existing broadcast IPI
> (tlb_remove_table_sync_one()) with targeted IPIs (tlb_remove_table_sync_mm()).
Right, but if we can use full RCU for PT_RECLAIM, why can't we do so
unconditionally and not add overhead?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-02 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-02 7:45 [PATCH v4 0/3] targeted TLB sync IPIs for lockless page table walkers Lance Yang
2026-02-02 7:45 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: use targeted IPIs for TLB sync with " Lance Yang
2026-02-02 9:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 12:14 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 13:23 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 13:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 14:28 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 16:20 ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-02 7:45 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: switch callers to tlb_remove_table_sync_mm() Lance Yang
2026-02-02 7:45 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] x86/tlb: add architecture-specific TLB IPI optimization support Lance Yang
2026-02-02 9:54 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] targeted TLB sync IPIs for lockless page table walkers Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 11:00 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] targeted TLB sync IPIs for lockless page table Lance Yang
2026-02-02 12:50 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-02-02 12:58 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 13:07 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 13:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 14:37 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 15:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 15:52 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-05 13:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 15:01 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-05 15:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 15:28 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-05 15:09 ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-05 15:31 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-05 15:41 ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-05 16:30 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-05 16:46 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 16:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-02-05 17:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 18:36 ` Dave Hansen
2026-02-05 22:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 21:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-05 17:00 ` Dave Hansen
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