From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "D. Wythe" <alibuda@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dust Li <dust.li@linux.alibaba.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Sidraya Jayagond <sidraya@linux.ibm.com>,
Wenjia Zhang <wenjia@linux.ibm.com>,
Mahanta Jambigi <mjambigi@linux.ibm.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Tony Lu <tonylu@linux.alibaba.com>,
Wen Gu <guwen@linux.alibaba.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, oliver.yang@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/3] mm: vmalloc: export find_vm_area()
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2026 11:16:36 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260130151636.GF2328995@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260130085131.GA122673@j66a10360.sqa.eu95>
On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 04:51:31PM +0800, D. Wythe wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 09:20:58AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 07:36:09PM +0800, D. Wythe wrote:
> >
> > > > From there you can check the resulting scatterlist and compute the
> > > > page_size to pass to ib_map_mr_sg().
> >
> > I should clarify this is done after DMA mapping the scatterlist. dma
> > mapping can improve the page size.
> >
> > And maybe the core code should be helping compute the MR's target page
> > size for a scatterlist.. We already have code to do this in umem, and
> > it is a pretty bit tricky considering the IOVA related rules.
> >
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> After a deep dive into ib_umem_find_best_pgsz(), I have to say it is
> much more subtle than it first appears. The IOVA-to-PA relative offset
> rules, in particular, make it quite easy to get wrong.
>
> While SMC could duplicate this logic, it is certainly not ideal for
> maintenance. Are there any plans to refactor this into a generic RDMA
> core helper—for instance, one that can determine the best page size
> directly from an sg_table or scatterlist?
I have not heard of anyone touching this.
It looks like there are only two users in the kernel that pass
something other than PAGE_SIZE, so it seems nobody has cared about
this till now.
With high order folios being more common it seems like something
missing.
However, I wonder what the drivers do with the input page size,
segmenting a scatterlist is a bit hard and we have helpers for that
already too.
It is a bigger project but probably the right thing is to remove the
page size input, wrap the scatterlist in a umem and fixup the drivers
to use the existing umem support for building mtts, splitting
scatterlists into blocks and so on.
The kernel side here has been left alone for a long time..
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-30 15:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-23 8:23 [PATCH net-next 0/3] net/smc: buffer allocation and registration improvements D. Wythe
2026-01-23 8:23 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] net/smc: cap allocation order for SMC-R physically contiguous buffers D. Wythe
2026-01-23 10:54 ` Alexandra Winter
2026-01-24 9:22 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-23 8:23 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] mm: vmalloc: export find_vm_area() D. Wythe
2026-01-23 14:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-23 18:55 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-24 9:35 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-24 10:48 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-24 14:57 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-26 10:28 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-26 12:02 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-26 16:45 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-01-27 13:34 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-28 3:45 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-28 11:13 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-28 12:44 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-28 13:49 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29 11:03 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-29 12:22 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29 14:04 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-28 18:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 11:36 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-29 13:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30 8:51 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-30 15:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-02-03 9:14 ` D. Wythe
2026-01-23 8:23 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] net/smc: optimize MTTE consumption for SMC-R buffers D. Wythe
2026-01-23 14:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-24 9:25 ` D. Wythe
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