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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Balbir Singh" <balbirs@nvidia.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/5] mm/zone_device: Reinitialize large zone device private folios
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 10:19:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260123141956.GZ1134360@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1EA077E1-DDF1-4356-B8F8-CB13F0D6D8B5@nvidia.com>

On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 09:41:03PM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
> > Now that we have frozen pages where the frozen owner can use some of
> > the struct page memory however it likes that memory needs to be reset
> > before the page is thawed and converted back to a folio.
> 
> Based on my understanding, a frozen folio cannot be changed however the
> owner wants, since the modification needs to prevent parallel scanner
> from misusing the folio. For example, PFN scanners like memory compaction
> needs to know this is a frozen folio with a certain order, so that it
> will skip it as a whole. But if you change the frozen folio in a way
> that a parallel scanner cannot recognize the right order (e.g., the frozen
> folio order becomes lower) and finds some of the subpages have non-zero
> refcount, it can cause issues.

Yes, and this is part of the rules of what bits in the struct page
memory you can use for frozen pages. I've never seen it clearly
written unfortunately.

> But I assume device private pages do not have such a parallel scanner
> looking at each struct page one by one and examining their state.

I hope not!
 
> BTW, it seems that you treat frozen folio and free folio interchangeable
> in this device private folio discussion. To me, they are different,
> since frozen folio is transient to prevent others from touching the folio,

Yes, but really it is the same issue. Once the folio is frozen either
for free or any other use case it must follow a certain set of rules
to be compatible with the parallel scanners and things that may still
inspect the page without taking any refcounts.

The scanner can't tell if the refcount is 0 because it is frozen or
because it is free.

> >>>>>> I don't think so. It should do the above job efficiently and iterate
> >>>>>> over the page list exactly once.
> >>>>
> >>>> folio initialization should not iterate over any page list, since folio is
> >>>> supposed to be treated as a whole instead of individual pages.
> >>>
> >>> The tail pages need to have the right data in them or compound_head
> >>> won't work.
> >>
> >> That is done by set_compound_head() in prep_compound_tail().
> >
> > Inside a page loop :)
> >
> > 	__SetPageHead(page);
> > 	for (i = 1; i < nr_pages; i++)
> > 		prep_compound_tail(page, i);
> 
> Yes, but to a folio, the fields of tail page 1 and 2 are used because
> we do not want to inflate struct folio for high order folios. In this
> loop, all tail pages are processed in the same way. To follow your method,
> there will be some ifs for tail page 1 to clear _nr_pages and tail page 2
> to clear other fields. It feels to me that we are clearly mixing
> struct page and struct folio.

I'm not saying mixing, I'm just pointing out we have to clean up the
tail pages by writing to every one. This can also adjust the flags and
order if required on tail pages. Initing the folio is a seperate step,
and you already showed the right way to code that.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-23 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-16 11:10 [PATCH v6 0/5] Enable THP support in drm_pagemap Francois Dugast
2026-01-16 11:10 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] mm/zone_device: Reinitialize large zone device private folios Francois Dugast
2026-01-16 13:10   ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-16 16:07   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-16 17:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-16 17:27       ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22  8:02     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-16 17:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-16 19:17     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-16 20:31       ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-17  0:51         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-17  3:55           ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-17  4:42             ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-17  5:27               ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-19  5:59                 ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-19 14:20                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-19 20:09                     ` Zi Yan
2026-01-19 20:35                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-19 22:15                         ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-20  2:50                           ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 13:53                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-21  3:01                               ` Zi Yan
2026-01-22  7:19                                 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-22  8:00                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22  9:10                                     ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-22 21:41                                       ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-22 22:53                                         ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-23  6:45                                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-22 14:29                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-22 15:46                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-23  2:41                                   ` Zi Yan
2026-01-23 14:19                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-21  3:51                             ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-17  0:19       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-19  5:41         ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-19 14:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-16 22:34   ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-16 22:36     ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-16 11:10 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] drm/pagemap: Unlock and put folios when possible Francois Dugast
2026-01-16 11:10 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] drm/pagemap: Add helper to access zone_device_data Francois Dugast
2026-01-16 11:10 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] drm/pagemap: Correct cpages calculation for migrate_vma_setup Francois Dugast
2026-01-16 11:37   ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-16 12:02     ` Francois Dugast
2026-01-16 11:10 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] drm/pagemap: Enable THP support for GPU memory migration Francois Dugast

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