From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Jordan Niethe <jniethe@nvidia.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, balbirs@nvidia.com, matthew.brost@intel.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, david@redhat.com,
lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, lyude@redhat.com, dakr@kernel.org,
airlied@gmail.com, simona@ffwll.ch, rcampbell@nvidia.com,
mpenttil@redhat.com, willy@infradead.org,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
Felix.Kuehling@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/11] mm: Remove device private pages from the physical address space
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 09:50:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260123135050.GV1134360@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <l5jxxobpj6shwuuthsyxlzfnhs6dx4spvzcqxrycn4chtywniq@e2eaio4nhorq>
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 04:38:49PM +1100, Alistair Popple wrote:
> > >> We need to be a bit careful by what we mean when we say "HMM" in the kernel.
> > >>
> > >> Specifically MIGRATE_PFN_SHIFT is used with migrate_vma/migrate_device, which
> > >> is the migration half of "HMM" which does depend on CONFIG_DEVICE_MIGRATION or
> > >> really just CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE making it somewhat arch specific.
> > >>
> > >> However hmm_range_fault() does something similar - see the definition of
> > >> hmm_pfn_flags - it actually steals the top 11 bits of a pfn for flags, and it is
> > >> not architecture specific. It only depends on CONFIG_MMU.
> > >
> > > Oh, that is hacky. But are HMM PFNs with any flag exposed to code outside HMM?
> > > Currently, device private needs to reserve PFNs for struct page, so I assume
> > > only the reserved PFNs are seen by outsiders. Otherwise, when outsiders see
> > > a HMM PFN with a flag, pfn_to_page() on such a PFN will read non exist
> > > struct page, right?
>
> Any user of hmm_range_fault() would be exposed to an issue - most users of
> hmm_range_fault() use it to grab a PFN (ie. physical address) to map into some
> remote page table. So potentially if some important bit in the PFN is dropped
> that could potentially result in users mapping the wrong physical address or
> page.
Trim the quotes guys..
hmm is arguably returning phys_addr_t >> PAGE_SHIFT. This is a lossless
translation because everything is aligned, it isn't hacky.
The value it returns is not a "pfn", it is a hmm structure that has to
be decoded to something else using a hmm helper function.
I think we take a number of liberties going between pte, phys_addr_t,
pfn. If there are arches that use a special encoding for the mm PFN
then range_fault would need to call converter functions to get to/from
phys_addr_t.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-23 13:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-07 9:18 [PATCH v2 00/11] Remove device private pages from " Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] mm/migrate_device: Introduce migrate_pfn_from_page() helper Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 20:03 ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:49 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 21:03 ` Kuehling, Felix
2026-01-09 22:47 ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] drm/amdkfd: Use migrate pfns internally Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 22:00 ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:56 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] mm/migrate_device: Make migrate_device_{pfns,range}() take mpfns Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] mm/migrate_device: Add migrate PFN flag to track device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 20:01 ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:41 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] mm/page_vma_mapped: Add flags to page_vma_mapped_walk::pfn " Jordan Niethe
2026-01-13 19:44 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 22:37 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-20 22:49 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 22:52 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] mm: Add helpers to create migration entries from struct pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] mm: Add a new swap type for migration entries of device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-12 1:00 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] mm: Add helpers to create device private entries from struct pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] mm/util: Add flag to track device private pages in page snapshots Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] mm/hmm: Add flag to track device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 9:18 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] mm: Remove device private pages from the physical address space Jordan Niethe
2026-01-13 20:04 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 22:33 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-20 22:53 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 23:02 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-20 23:06 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 23:34 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-21 2:41 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-21 4:04 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-22 6:24 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-23 2:02 ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-23 3:06 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-23 3:09 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-23 5:38 ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-23 13:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-07 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Remove device private pages from " Matthew Brost
2026-01-07 20:21 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-08 2:25 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 5:42 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 0:01 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 0:31 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-09 1:27 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 6:22 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-14 5:41 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-23 6:25 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-07 20:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-07 21:02 ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-08 1:29 ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-08 1:08 ` John Hubbard
2026-01-08 1:49 ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-08 2:55 ` Jordan Niethe
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