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From: "Li Zhe" <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>
To: <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
	 <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	<david@kernel.org>,  <fvdl@google.com>, <gourry@gourry.net>,
	<joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,  <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
	<linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,  <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-mm@kvack.org>,  <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>,
	<mhocko@suse.com>, <mjguzik@gmail.com>,  <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	<osalvador@suse.de>, <raghavendra.kt@amd.com>,
	 <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>, <zhanjie9@hisilicon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] Introduce a huge-page pre-zeroing mechanism
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 18:39:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260120103949.7673-1-lizhe.67@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260120094744.5d92e34a@pumpkin>

On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 09:47:44 +0000, david.laight.linux@gmail.com wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 14:27:06 +0800
> "Li Zhe" <lizhe.67@bytedance.com> wrote:
> 
> > In light of the preceding discussion, we appear to have reached the
> > following understanding:
> > 
> > (1) At present we prefer to mitigate slow application startup (e.g.,
> > VM creation) by zeroing huge pages at the moment they are freed
> > (init_on_free). The principal benefit is that user space gains the
> > performance improvement without deploying any additional user space
> > daemon.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> If userspace does:
> $ program_a; program_b
> and pages used by program_a are zeroed when it exits you get the delay
> for zeroing all the pages it used before program_b starts.
> OTOH if the zeroing is deferred program_b only needs to zero the pages
> it needs to start (and there may be some lurking).

Under the init_on-free approach, improving the speed of zeroing may
indeed prove necessary.

However, I believe we should first reach consensus on adopting
“init_on_free” as the solution to slow application startup before
turning to performance tuning.

Thanks,
Zhe


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-20 10:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-07 11:31 Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] mm/hugetlb: add pre-zeroed framework Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] mm/hugetlb: convert to prep_account_new_hugetlb_folio() Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] mm/hugetlb: move the huge folio to the end of the list during enqueue Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] mm/hugetlb: introduce per-node sysfs interface "zeroable_hugepages" Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] mm/hugetlb: simplify function hugetlb_sysfs_add_hstate() Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] mm/hugetlb: relocate the per-hstate struct kobject pointer Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] mm/hugetlb: add epoll support for interface "zeroable_hugepages" Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] mm/hugetlb: limit event generation frequency of function do_zero_free_notify() Li Zhe
2026-01-07 16:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Introduce a huge-page pre-zeroing mechanism Andrew Morton
2026-01-12 11:25   ` Li Zhe
2026-01-09  6:05 ` Muchun Song
2026-01-12 11:27   ` Li Zhe
2026-01-12 19:52     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-13  6:37       ` Li Zhe
2026-01-13 10:15         ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-13 12:41           ` Li Zhe
2026-01-14 10:41             ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 11:36               ` Li Zhe
2026-01-14 11:55                 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 12:11                   ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-01-14 12:33                     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 12:41                       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 13:06                         ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-01-14 17:21                           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15  9:36                             ` Li Zhe
2026-01-15 11:08                               ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 11:57                                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-15 17:08                                   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 20:16                                     ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-15 20:22                                       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 22:30                                         ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-20  6:27                                           ` Li Zhe
2026-01-20  9:47                                             ` David Laight
2026-01-20 10:39                                               ` Li Zhe [this message]
2026-01-20 18:18                                                 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-20 18:38                                                   ` Gregory Price
2026-01-20 19:30                                                   ` David Laight
2026-01-20 19:52                                                     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-21  8:03                                                   ` Li Zhe
2026-01-21 12:41                                                   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-21 12:32                                               ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-12 22:00     ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-13  6:39       ` Li Zhe
2026-01-12 22:01 ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-13  6:41   ` Li Zhe

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