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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: "Li Zhe" <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>
Cc: <david@kernel.org>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<dan.j.williams@intel.com>, <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	<ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>, <fvdl@google.com>,
	<gourry@gourry.net>, <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	<jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>, <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<mhocko@suse.com>, <mjguzik@gmail.com>, <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	<osalvador@suse.de>, <raghavendra.kt@amd.com>,
	<wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>, <zhanjie9@hisilicon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] Introduce a huge-page pre-zeroing mechanism
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 09:47:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260120094744.5d92e34a@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260120062706.91078-1-lizhe.67@bytedance.com>

On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 14:27:06 +0800
"Li Zhe" <lizhe.67@bytedance.com> wrote:

> In light of the preceding discussion, we appear to have reached the
> following understanding:
> 
> (1) At present we prefer to mitigate slow application startup (e.g.,
> VM creation) by zeroing huge pages at the moment they are freed
> (init_on_free). The principal benefit is that user space gains the
> performance improvement without deploying any additional user space
> daemon.

Am I missing something?
If userspace does:
$ program_a; program_b
and pages used by program_a are zeroed when it exits you get the delay
for zeroing all the pages it used before program_b starts.
OTOH if the zeroing is deferred program_b only needs to zero the pages
it needs to start (and there may be some lurking).

The only real gain has to come from zeroing pages when the system is idle.
That will give plenty of zeroed pages needed for starting a web browser
from the desktop and also speed up single-threaded things like 'make -j1'.

	David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-20  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-07 11:31 Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] mm/hugetlb: add pre-zeroed framework Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] mm/hugetlb: convert to prep_account_new_hugetlb_folio() Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] mm/hugetlb: move the huge folio to the end of the list during enqueue Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] mm/hugetlb: introduce per-node sysfs interface "zeroable_hugepages" Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] mm/hugetlb: simplify function hugetlb_sysfs_add_hstate() Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] mm/hugetlb: relocate the per-hstate struct kobject pointer Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] mm/hugetlb: add epoll support for interface "zeroable_hugepages" Li Zhe
2026-01-07 11:31 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] mm/hugetlb: limit event generation frequency of function do_zero_free_notify() Li Zhe
2026-01-07 16:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Introduce a huge-page pre-zeroing mechanism Andrew Morton
2026-01-12 11:25   ` Li Zhe
2026-01-09  6:05 ` Muchun Song
2026-01-12 11:27   ` Li Zhe
2026-01-12 19:52     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-13  6:37       ` Li Zhe
2026-01-13 10:15         ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-13 12:41           ` Li Zhe
2026-01-14 10:41             ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 11:36               ` Li Zhe
2026-01-14 11:55                 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 12:11                   ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-01-14 12:33                     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 12:41                       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-14 13:06                         ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-01-14 17:21                           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15  9:36                             ` Li Zhe
2026-01-15 11:08                               ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 11:57                                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-15 17:08                                   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 20:16                                     ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-15 20:22                                       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-15 22:30                                         ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-20  6:27                                           ` Li Zhe
2026-01-20  9:47                                             ` David Laight [this message]
2026-01-20 10:39                                               ` Li Zhe
2026-01-20 18:18                                                 ` Gregory Price
2026-01-20 18:38                                                   ` Gregory Price
2026-01-20 19:30                                                   ` David Laight
2026-01-20 19:52                                                     ` Gregory Price
2026-01-21  8:03                                                   ` Li Zhe
2026-01-21 12:41                                                   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-21 12:32                                               ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-12 22:00     ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-13  6:39       ` Li Zhe
2026-01-12 22:01 ` Ankur Arora
2026-01-13  6:41   ` Li Zhe

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