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From: <wang.yaxin@zte.com.cn>
To: <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <liam.howlett@oracle.com>,
	<lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>, <david@kernel.org>,
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	<qiu.yutan@zte.com.cn>, <jiang.kun2@zte.com.cn>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH linux-next] mm/madvise: prefer VMA lock for MADV_REMOVE
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 15:00:29 +0800 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202601141500292511NYBdWwzTilw10jiTcGlN@zte.com.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWcZCwz__qwwKbxw@casper.infradead.org>

>> -	mark_mmap_lock_dropped(madv_behavior);
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Prefer VMA read lock path: when operating under VMA lock, we avoid
>> +	 * dropping/reacquiring the mmap lock and directly perform the filesystem
>> +	 * operation while the VMA is read-locked. We still take and drop a file
>> +	 * reference to protect against concurrent file changes.
>
>How does taking a reference prevent file changes?  What do you mean by
"file changes" anyway?

Thanks for the review.

Taking a reference with get_file(f) does not prevent file content or
metadata changes; it pins the struct file so the pointer remains valid
while we temporarily drop mmap_lock. The VMA can be split, unmapped, or
otherwise changed during that window, and without a ref the vma->vm_file
could be freed.

By “file changes” I meant lifetime changes to the VMA → file association
(e.g. concurrent munmap/mremap or VMA splits) while mmap_lock is dropped,
not changes to the file’s data or inode state. Those are serialized by
the filesystem (e.g. inode locks) and are unrelated to the refcount.

>> +	 * When operating under mmap read lock (fallback), preserve existing
>> +	 * behaviour: mark lock dropped, coordinate with userfaultfd_remove(),
>> +	 * temporarily drop mmap_read_lock around vfs_fallocate(), and then
>> +	 * reacquire it.
>
>This is not the way to write an inline comment; that's how you describe
>what you've done in the changelog.
>
>> @@ -1033,12 +1045,19 @@ static long madvise_remove(struct madvise_behavior *madv_behavior)
>>  			+ ((loff_t)vma->vm_pgoff << PAGE_SHIFT);
>> 
>>  	/*
>> -	 * Filesystem's fallocate may need to take i_rwsem.  We need to
>> -	 * explicitly grab a reference because the vma (and hence the
>> -	 * vma's reference to the file) can go away as soon as we drop
>> -	 * mmap_lock.
>> +	 * Execute filesystem punch-hole under appropriate locking.
>> +	 * - VMA lock path: no mmap lock held; call vfs_fallocate() directly.
>> +	 * - mmap lock path: follow existing protocol including UFFD coordination
>> +	 *   and temporary mmap_read_unlock/lock around the filesystem call.
>
>Again, I don't like what you've done here with the comments.

I’ll fix the inline comment to say: “Pin struct file across potential
mmap_lock drop so the file pointer remains valid even if the VMA is
modified or freed,” and remove the changelog-style prose.

Thanks,
Jiang Kun


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-14  7:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-14  3:24 wang.yaxin
2026-01-14  4:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-01-14  7:00   ` wang.yaxin [this message]
2026-01-14  4:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-01-14  8:03 ` [syzbot ci] " syzbot ci
2026-01-14  9:04 ` [PATCH linux-next] " Lorenzo Stoakes

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