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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	corbet@lwn.net, joro@8bytes.org, will@kernel.org,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
	surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com, jackmanb@google.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, ziy@nvidia.com, david@redhat.com,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	rppt@kernel.org, xiaqinxin@huawei.com, baolu.lu@linux.intel.com,
	rdunlap@infradead.org, Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/4] iommu: debug-pagealloc: Track IOMMU pages
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 09:52:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260112135208.GD745888@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFgf54psxPrsvujStPNtrzxiKOsJF+aVrN7BcNxxmAF4wDmRXA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 01:43:41PM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> But I don’t see why not. from the documentation:
> /**
>  * pfn_valid - check if there is a valid memory map entry for a PFN
>  * @pfn: the page frame number to check
>  *
>  * Check if there is a valid memory map entry aka struct page for the @pfn.
>  * Note, that availability of the memory map entry does not imply that
>  * there is actual usable memory at that @pfn. The struct page may
>  * represent a hole or an unusable page frame.
> …
> 
> That means that struct page exists, which is all what we need here.

A struct page that has never been initialize shouldn't ever be read. I
don't know how that relates to page_ext, but are you really sure that
is all you need?

> I can see many places have the same pattern in the kernel already, for example:
> - vfio_iommu_type1.c, is_invalid_reserved_pfn() which does the same
> check which can include MMIO and then get the page struct.

This whole flow is nonsensical and wrong though, I wouldn't point to
it as something reliable.

> - kvm_main.c: in __kvm_vcpu_map(), it distinguishes MMIO from memory
> and then accesses the page struct.

That's sure looks sketchy to me.. Eg if CONFIG_WANT_PAGE_VIRTUAL is
set and you try to feed a MMIO through through that kmap() it will
explode.

KVM can argue that it doesn't work with CONFIG_WANT_PAGE_VIRTUAL but
iommu cannot.

So, again, IDK, we are trying not to use pfn_valid() in the DMA code.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-12 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-09 17:18 [PATCH v6 0/4] iommu: Add page_ext for IOMMU_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC Mostafa Saleh
2026-01-09 17:18 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] " Mostafa Saleh
2026-01-09 17:18 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] iommu: Add calls " Mostafa Saleh
2026-01-09 17:18 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] iommu: debug-pagealloc: Track IOMMU pages Mostafa Saleh
2026-01-09 19:15   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-09 19:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-12 10:20     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-01-12 13:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-12 13:43         ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-01-12 13:52           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-12 14:58             ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-01-12 18:27               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-12 19:11               ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-12 19:17                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-09 17:18 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] iommu: debug-pagealloc: Check mapped/unmapped kernel memory Mostafa Saleh
2026-01-09 19:16   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-10  9:53 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] iommu: Add page_ext for IOMMU_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC Jörg Rödel

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