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From: "Li Zhe" <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>
To: <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <david@kernel.org>,
	<fvdl@google.com>,  <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-mm@kvack.org>,  <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>,
	<muchun.song@linux.dev>, <osalvador@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Introduce a huge-page pre-zeroing mechanism
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 20:31:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251229123153.7578-1-lizhe.67@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fmuw35nyxafum22ni7ozhybjaarf77baqq774czok4k6y6eqqb@4oabqflx7ryz>

On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 08:21:16 +0100, mjguzik@gmail.com wrote:

> In the name of "provide tools, not policy" making userspace call the
> shots is the right approach, which I advocated for in the original
> thread.

Thank you for your endorsement!

> I do have concerns about the specific interface as I think it is a
> little too limited.
> 
> Suppose vastly different deployments with different needs. For example
> one may want to keep at least n pages ready to use, RAM permitting.
> 
> At the same time it perhaps would like to balance CPU usage vs other
> tasks, so for example it would control parallelism based on observed
> churn rate.
> 
> So a toolset I would consider viable would need to provide an extensible
> interface to future-proof it.
> 
> As for an immediate need not met with the current patchset, there is no
> configurable threshold for free zeroed page count to generate a wake up.
> 
> I suspect a bunch of ioctls would be needed here.
> 
> I don't know if sysfs is viable at all for this. Worst case a device (or
> a set of per-node devices) can be created with the same goal.

In my view, the present kernel framework does not allow an ioctl
interface to be placed under the per-node huge-page directories.

The functionality you describe appears to align closely with that
offered by the cgroup.event_control interface in the memory
controller.

We could therefore introduce a new event_control file for huge-page
events, following the same pattern. Given that all huge-page
attributes already live in sysfs, such an addition would keep the
interface consistent and avoid the extra indirection of a new
/dev/hugepagectl file.

Thanks,
Zhe


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-29 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-25  8:20 李喆
2025-12-25  8:20 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm/hugetlb: add pre-zeroed framework 李喆
2025-12-26  9:24   ` Raghavendra K T
2025-12-26  9:48     ` Li Zhe
2025-12-25  8:20 ` [PATCH 2/8] mm/hugetlb: convert to prep_account_new_hugetlb_folio() 李喆
2025-12-25  8:20 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm/hugetlb: move the huge folio to the end of the list during enqueue 李喆
2025-12-25  8:20 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm/hugetlb: introduce per-node sysfs interface "zeroable_hugepages" 李喆
2025-12-26 18:51   ` Frank van der Linden
2025-12-29 12:25     ` Li Zhe
2025-12-29 18:57       ` Frank van der Linden
2025-12-30  2:41         ` Li Zhe
2025-12-25  8:20 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm/hugetlb: simplify function hugetlb_sysfs_add_hstate() 李喆
2025-12-25  8:20 ` [PATCH 6/8] mm/hugetlb: relocate the per-hstate struct kobject pointer 李喆
2025-12-25  8:20 ` [PATCH 7/8] mm/hugetlb: add epoll support for interface "zeroable_hugepages" 李喆
2025-12-25  8:20 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm/hugetlb: limit event generation frequency of function do_zero_free_notify() 李喆
2025-12-26 18:32 ` [PATCH 0/8] Introduce a huge-page pre-zeroing mechanism Frank van der Linden
2025-12-26 21:42   ` Frank van der Linden
2025-12-29 12:28     ` Li Zhe
2025-12-27  7:21 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-12-29 12:31   ` Li Zhe [this message]
2025-12-28 21:44 ` Andrew Morton
2025-12-29 12:34   ` Li Zhe

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