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From: Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>
To: david@kernel.org
Cc: Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	aneesh.kumar@kernel.org, arnd@arndb.de, baohua@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/3] x86/mm: implement redundant IPI elimination for
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 11:19:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251222031919.41964-1-ioworker0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c36501bc-2690-4ed2-b85e-13e64c41baaf@kernel.org>

From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>


On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 14:08:07 +0100, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> On 12/13/25 09:00, Lance Yang wrote:
> > From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
> > 
> > Pass both freed_tables and unshared_tables to flush_tlb_mm_range() to
> > ensure lazy-TLB CPUs receive IPIs and flush their paging-structure caches:
> > 
> > 	flush_tlb_mm_range(..., freed_tables || unshared_tables);
> > 
> > Implement tlb_table_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast() for x86: on native x86
> > without paravirt or INVLPGB, the TLB flush IPI already provides necessary
> > synchronization, allowing the second IPI to be skipped. For paravirt with
> > non-native flush_tlb_multi and for INVLPGB, conservatively keep both IPIs.
> > 
> > Suggested-by: David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) <david@kernel.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
> > ---
> >   arch/x86/include/asm/tlb.h | 17 ++++++++++++++++-
> >   1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/tlb.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/tlb.h
> > index 866ea78ba156..96602b7b7210 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/tlb.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/tlb.h
> > @@ -5,10 +5,24 @@
> >   #define tlb_flush tlb_flush
> >   static inline void tlb_flush(struct mmu_gather *tlb);
> >   
> > +#define tlb_table_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast tlb_table_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast
> > +static inline bool tlb_table_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast(void);
> > +
> >   #include <asm-generic/tlb.h>
> >   #include <linux/kernel.h>
> >   #include <vdso/bits.h>
> >   #include <vdso/page.h>
> > +#include <asm/paravirt.h>
> > +
> > +static inline bool tlb_table_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast(void)
> > +{
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_PARAVIRT
> > +	/* Paravirt may use hypercalls that don't send real IPIs. */
> > +	if (pv_ops.mmu.flush_tlb_multi != native_flush_tlb_multi)
> > +		return false;
> > +#endif
> > +	return !cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_INVLPGB);
> 
> Right, here I was wondering whether we should have a new pv_ops callback 
> to indicate that instead.
> 
> pv_ops.mmu.tlb_table_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast()
> 
> Or a simple boolean property that pv init code properly sets.

Cool!

> 
> Something for x86 folks to give suggestions for. :)

I prefer to use a boolean property instead of comparing function pointers.
Something like this:

----8<----
diff --git a/arch/x86/hyperv/mmu.c b/arch/x86/hyperv/mmu.c
index cfcb60468b01..90e9da33f2c7 100644
--- a/arch/x86/hyperv/mmu.c
+++ b/arch/x86/hyperv/mmu.c
@@ -243,4 +243,5 @@ void hyperv_setup_mmu_ops(void)

 	pr_info("Using hypercall for remote TLB flush\n");
 	pv_ops.mmu.flush_tlb_multi = hyperv_flush_tlb_multi;
+	pv_ops.mmu.tlb_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast = false;
 }
diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/paravirt_types.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/paravirt_types.h
index 3502939415ad..f9756df6f3f6 100644
--- a/arch/x86/include/asm/paravirt_types.h
+++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/paravirt_types.h
@@ -133,6 +133,19 @@ struct pv_mmu_ops {
 	void (*flush_tlb_multi)(const struct cpumask *cpus,
 				const struct flush_tlb_info *info);

+	/*
+	 * Indicates whether TLB flush IPIs provide sufficient synchronization
+	 * for GUP-fast when freeing or unsharing page tables.
+	 *
+	 * Set to true only when the TLB flush guarantees:
+	 * - IPIs reach all CPUs with potentially stale paging-structure caches
+	 * - Synchronization with IRQ-disabled code like GUP-fast
+	 *
+	 * Paravirt implementations that use hypercalls (which may not send
+	 * real IPIs) should set this to false.
+	 */
+	bool tlb_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast;
+
 	/* Hook for intercepting the destruction of an mm_struct. */
 	void (*exit_mmap)(struct mm_struct *mm);
 	void (*notify_page_enc_status_changed)(unsigned long pfn, int npages, bool enc);
diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/tlb.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/tlb.h
index 96602b7b7210..9d20ad4786cc 100644
--- a/arch/x86/include/asm/tlb.h
+++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/tlb.h
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ static inline bool tlb_table_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast(void)
 {
 #ifdef CONFIG_PARAVIRT
 	/* Paravirt may use hypercalls that don't send real IPIs. */
-	if (pv_ops.mmu.flush_tlb_multi != native_flush_tlb_multi)
+	if (!pv_ops.mmu.tlb_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast)
 		return false;
 #endif
 	return !cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_INVLPGB);
diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/kvm.c b/arch/x86/kernel/kvm.c
index df78ddee0abb..aaea83100105 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kernel/kvm.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kernel/kvm.c
@@ -843,6 +843,7 @@ static void __init kvm_guest_init(void)
 #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
 	if (pv_tlb_flush_supported()) {
 		pv_ops.mmu.flush_tlb_multi = kvm_flush_tlb_multi;
+		pv_ops.mmu.tlb_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast = false;
 		pr_info("KVM setup pv remote TLB flush\n");
 	}

diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c b/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c
index ab3e172dcc69..625fe93e138a 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c
@@ -173,6 +173,7 @@ struct paravirt_patch_template pv_ops = {
 	.mmu.flush_tlb_kernel	= native_flush_tlb_global,
 	.mmu.flush_tlb_one_user	= native_flush_tlb_one_user,
 	.mmu.flush_tlb_multi	= native_flush_tlb_multi,
+	.mmu.tlb_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast = true,

 	.mmu.exit_mmap		= paravirt_nop,
 	.mmu.notify_page_enc_status_changed	= paravirt_nop,
diff --git a/arch/x86/xen/mmu_pv.c b/arch/x86/xen/mmu_pv.c
index 7a35c3393df4..06eb80cfb4da 100644
--- a/arch/x86/xen/mmu_pv.c
+++ b/arch/x86/xen/mmu_pv.c
@@ -2185,6 +2185,7 @@ static const typeof(pv_ops) xen_mmu_ops __initconst = {
 		.flush_tlb_kernel = xen_flush_tlb,
 		.flush_tlb_one_user = xen_flush_tlb_one_user,
 		.flush_tlb_multi = xen_flush_tlb_multi,
+		.tlb_flush_implies_ipi_broadcast = false,

 		.pgd_alloc = xen_pgd_alloc,
 		.pgd_free = xen_pgd_free,
---

Native x86 sets it to true, paravirt guests (Xen/KVM/Hyper-V) set it to
false. Making the intent explicit :)

Hopefully x86 folks can give me some suggestions!
 
Thanks,
Lance


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-22  3:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-13  8:00 [PATCH RFC 0/3] skip redundant TLB sync IPIs Lance Yang
2025-12-13  8:00 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] mm/tlb: allow architectures to " Lance Yang
2025-12-15  5:48   ` Lance Yang
2025-12-18 13:08     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-13  8:00 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] x86/mm: implement redundant IPI elimination for PMD unsharing Lance Yang
2025-12-18 13:08   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-22  3:19     ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-12-23  9:44       ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] x86/mm: implement redundant IPI elimination for David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-23 11:13         ` Lance Yang
2025-12-13  8:00 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] mm/khugepaged: skip redundant IPI in collapse_huge_page() Lance Yang
2025-12-18 13:13   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-18 14:35     ` Lance Yang
2025-12-19  8:25       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-21 10:43         ` Lance Yang

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