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From: Dipendra Khadka <kdipendra88@gmail.com>
To: hannes@cmpxchg.org
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/memcg: reorder retry checks for clarity in try_charge_memcg
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 07:25:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251218072543.5071-1-kdipendra88@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251215204624.GE905277@cmpxchg.org>

Hi Johannes,

Thank you for the feedback. Let me clarify the scenario this patch addresses.

The task_is_dying() check in try_charge_memcg() identifies when the
CURRENT task (the caller) is the OOM victim - not when some other 
process was killed.

Two scenarios:

1. Normal allocator triggers OOM:
  - Process A allocates → triggers OOM
  - Process B is killed (victim)
  - Process A continues with reset retries - task_is_dying() = false for A
  → Unchanged by my patch

2. Victim tries to allocate:
 - Process B (victim, TIF_MEMDIE set) tries to allocate
  - task_is_dying() = true
  - Current code: wastes retries on hopeless reclaims
  - My patch: exits immediately
  → Optimization for this case

The victim has three safety mechanisms that make the retries unnecessary:
1. oom_reaper proactively frees its memory
2. __alloc_pages_slowpath() grants reserves via oom_reserves_allowed()
3. Critical allocations with __GFP_NOFAIL still reach force: label

The retry loop for a dying victim is futile because:
- Reclaim won't help (victim is being killed to free memory!)
- Victim will exit regardless
- Just wastes CPU cycles

Would you like me to provide evidence showing the unnecessary retries,
or run specific tests to verify the safety mechanisms are sufficient?

Best Regards,
Dipendra


      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-18  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-15 14:54 Dipendra Khadka
2025-12-15 20:46 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-12-18  6:55   ` Dipendra Khadka
2025-12-18  7:06   ` Dipendra Khadka
2025-12-18  7:28     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-12-18  7:36       ` Dipendra Khadka
2025-12-18  8:08         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-12-18  7:25   ` Dipendra Khadka [this message]

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