From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: Are setuid shell scripts safe? (Implied by security_bprm_creds_for_exec)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2025 09:32:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251204093209.706f30a6@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251204054915.GI1712166@ZenIV>
On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 05:49:15 +0000
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2025 at 02:16:29PM +0100, Bernd Edlinger wrote:
>
> > Hmm, yes, that looks like an issue.
> >
> > I would have expected the security engine to look at bprm->filenanme
> > especially in the case, when bprm->interp != bprm->filename,
> > and check that it is not a sym-link with write-access for the
> > current user and of course also that the bprm->file is not a regular file
> > which is writable by the current user, if that is the case I would have expected
> > the secuity engine to enforce non-new-privs on a SUID executable somehow.
>
> Check that _what_ is not a symlink? And while we are at it, what do write
> permissions to any symlinks have to do with anything whatsoever?
>
You'd need to check for write permissions to all the directories in the
full path of the symlink and in all the directories traversed by the symlink.
(and that may not be enough....)
Passing the shell (or whatever) /dev/fd/n doesn't seem (to me) any different
from what happens when the elf interpreter runs a suid program.
You might want to check for non-owner write permissions to the /dev/fd/n entry,
but that is true for any suid executable, not just scripts.
FWIW the SYSV shells normally set the effective uid back the real uid.
So making a script suid didn't work unless the script started "#!/bin/sh -p".
Whether that improved security (rather than being annoying) is another matter.
David
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2023-10-30 5:20 ` [PATCH v12] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger
2023-10-30 9:00 ` kernel test robot
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2024-01-15 19:22 ` [PATCH v14] " Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-15 19:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-17 9:51 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-16 15:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-17 15:07 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-17 16:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-22 13:24 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-22 13:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-22 21:30 ` Kees Cook
2024-01-23 18:30 ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-24 0:09 ` Kees Cook
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2025-08-18 6:04 ` [PATCH v15] " Jain, Ayush
2025-08-18 20:53 ` [PATCH v16] " Bernd Edlinger
2025-08-19 4:36 ` Kees Cook
2025-08-19 18:53 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-08-21 17:34 ` [PATCH v17] " Bernd Edlinger
2025-10-27 6:26 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-10-27 12:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-02 16:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-05 14:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-11 9:21 ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-11 11:07 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-11 13:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-11 13:45 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-12 9:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-17 6:31 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-17 15:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-17 20:08 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-23 18:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-29 15:06 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-01 15:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] mt-exec: fix deadlock with ptrace_attach() Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] exec: make setup_new_exec() return int Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:15 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] exec: don't wait for zombie threads with cred_guard_mutex held Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 10:58 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2025-11-10 15:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 21:49 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2025-11-11 14:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:16 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] ptrace: ensure PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT won't stop if the tracee is killed by exec Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 5:28 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] mt-exec: fix deadlock with ptrace_attach() Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-10 14:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-18 18:13 ` [PATCH v18] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-20 15:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 17:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 20:57 ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Move cred computation under exec_update_lock Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 23:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21 2:59 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21 7:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21 9:35 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21 11:26 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21 19:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21 23:06 ` Ryan Lee
2025-11-23 18:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-23 23:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-25 16:19 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-25 11:55 ` Roberto Sassu
2025-12-01 16:06 ` Are setuid shell scripts safe? (Implied by security_bprm_creds_for_exec) Eric W. Biederman
2025-12-01 16:49 ` Roberto Sassu
2025-12-01 18:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-12-01 21:39 ` David Laight
2025-12-03 13:16 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-04 5:49 ` Al Viro
2025-12-04 9:32 ` David Laight [this message]
2025-12-04 13:03 ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-04 15:43 ` Stephen Smalley
2025-11-22 17:10 ` [PATCH v18] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger
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