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From: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
To: Oliver Mangold <oliver.mangold@pm.me>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/4] rust: `AlwaysRefCounted` is renamed to `RefCounted`.
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 16:00:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251201160030.6956a834.gary@garyguo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251117-unique-ref-v13-2-b5b243df1250@pm.me>

On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 10:07:57 +0000
Oliver Mangold <oliver.mangold@pm.me> wrote:

> `AlwaysRefCounted` will become a marker trait to indicate that it is
> allowed to obtain an `ARef<T>` from a `&T`, which cannot be allowed for
> types which are also Ownable.

The message needs a rationale for making the change rather than relying
on the reader to deduce so.

For example:

	There are types where it may both be referenced counted in some
	cases and owned in other. In such cases, obtaining `ARef<T>`
	from `&T` would be unsound as it allows creation of `ARef<T>`
	copy from `&Owned<T>`.

	Therefore, we split `AlwaysRefCounted` into `RefCounted` (which
	`ARef<T>` would require) and a marker trait to indicate that
	the type is always reference counted (and not `Ownable`) so the
	`&T` -> `ARef<T>` conversion is possible.

Best,
Gary

> 
> Signed-off-by: Oliver Mangold <oliver.mangold@pm.me>
> Co-developed-by: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
> Suggested-by: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
> ---
>  rust/kernel/auxiliary.rs        |  7 +++++-
>  rust/kernel/block/mq/request.rs | 15 +++++++------
>  rust/kernel/cred.rs             | 13 ++++++++++--
>  rust/kernel/device.rs           | 13 ++++++++----
>  rust/kernel/device/property.rs  |  7 +++++-
>  rust/kernel/drm/device.rs       | 10 ++++++---
>  rust/kernel/drm/gem/mod.rs      | 10 ++++++---
>  rust/kernel/fs/file.rs          | 16 ++++++++++----
>  rust/kernel/mm.rs               | 15 +++++++++----
>  rust/kernel/mm/mmput_async.rs   |  9 ++++++--
>  rust/kernel/opp.rs              | 10 ++++++---
>  rust/kernel/owned.rs            |  2 +-
>  rust/kernel/pci.rs              | 10 ++++++---
>  rust/kernel/pid_namespace.rs    | 12 +++++++++--
>  rust/kernel/platform.rs         |  7 +++++-
>  rust/kernel/sync/aref.rs        | 47 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
>  rust/kernel/task.rs             | 10 ++++++---
>  rust/kernel/types.rs            |  2 +-
>  18 files changed, 154 insertions(+), 61 deletions(-)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-01 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-17 10:07 [PATCH v13 0/4] New trait OwnableRefCounted for ARef<->Owned conversion Oliver Mangold
2025-11-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v13 1/4] rust: types: Add Ownable/Owned types Oliver Mangold
2025-11-28 15:09   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-12-01 15:51   ` Gary Guo
2025-11-17 10:07 ` [PATCH v13 2/4] rust: `AlwaysRefCounted` is renamed to `RefCounted` Oliver Mangold
2025-11-28 17:46   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-12-01 16:00   ` Gary Guo [this message]
2025-11-17 10:08 ` [PATCH v13 3/4] rust: Add missing SAFETY documentation for `ARef` example Oliver Mangold
2025-11-28 17:50   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-11-17 10:08 ` [PATCH v13 4/4] rust: Add `OwnableRefCounted` Oliver Mangold
2025-11-28 18:06   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-12-01 10:23     ` Oliver Mangold
2025-12-01 17:09       ` Miguel Ojeda

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