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From: david laight <david.laight@runbox.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][alpha] saner vmalloc handling (was Re: [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2025 11:32:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251130113213.40c8e7a0@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251130030146.GN3538@ZenIV>

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 03:01:46 +0000
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 29, 2025 at 03:37:28AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> 
> > AFAICS, 32bit arm is similar to 32bit x86 in that respect; propagation
> > is lazier, though - there arch_sync_kernel_mappings() bumps a counter
> > in init_mm and context switches use that to check if propagation needs
> > to be done.  No idea how well does that work on vfree() side of things -
> > hadn't looked into that rabbit hole...  
> 
> BTW, speaking of vmalloc space - does anybody object against sorting
> CONFIG_ALPHA_LARGE_VMALLOC out, so that we wouldn't need to mess
> with that in alpha page fault handler?
> 
> Basically, do what amd64 does - something along the lines of (untested)
> patch below.  Comments?

How difficult would it be to allocate the pte for the next 8GB on demand
inside vmalloc(), and then propagate it to the per-task page tables.
That is a path than can sleep, so being slow if it needs to synchronise
with other cpu shouldn't matter - especially since it won't happen often.

That should be moderately generic code and would let the vmalloc limit
be 'soft'; perhaps based on physical memory size, and even be raisable
from a sysctl.

Likely more use for very large x86-64 and arm-64 systems than alpha.

	David


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-30 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-26  9:05 [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Zizhi Wo
2025-11-26 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH] vfs: Fix might sleep in load_unaligned_zeropad() with rcu read lock held Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-26 18:10   ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 18:48     ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 19:05       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 19:26         ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 19:51           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 20:02             ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 22:25               ` david laight
2025-11-26 23:51                 ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 23:31               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-27  3:03                 ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-27  7:20                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-27 11:20                     ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-28  1:39           ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-26 20:42   ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 10:27 ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Zizhi Wo
2025-11-26 21:12   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-27 10:27     ` Will Deacon
2025-11-27 10:57     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-28 17:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-29  1:01         ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  1:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-29  4:08             ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29  9:08               ` Al Viro
2025-11-29  9:25                 ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29  9:44                   ` Al Viro
2025-11-29 10:05                     ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29 10:45                 ` david laight
2025-11-29  8:54             ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:08             ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  2:18         ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-01 13:28         ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Will Deacon
2025-12-02 12:43         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-12-02 13:02           ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-02 22:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-12-03  1:48             ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-05 12:08               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 18:55 ` Al Viro
2025-11-27  2:24   ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  3:37     ` Al Viro
2025-11-30  3:01       ` [RFC][alpha] saner vmalloc handling (was Re: [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context) Al Viro
2025-11-30 11:32         ` david laight [this message]
2025-11-30 16:43           ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 18:14             ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-11-30 19:03             ` david laight
2025-11-30 20:31               ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 20:32                 ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 22:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-30 23:37           ` Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:03       ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Zizhi Wo
2025-11-27 12:59 ` Will Deacon
2025-11-28  1:17   ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28  1:18     ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28  1:39       ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28 12:25         ` Will Deacon
2025-11-29  1:02           ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  3:55             ` Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:38               ` Zizhi Wo

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