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From: david laight <david.laight@runbox.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Xie Yuanbin <xieyuanbin1@huawei.com>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, will@kernel.org,
	linux@armlinux.org.uk, bigeasy@linutronix.de,
	rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
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	jack@suse.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
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	linux-mm@kvack.org, pangliyuan1@huawei.com,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, wozizhi@huaweicloud.com,
	yangerkun@huawei.com, lilinjie8@huawei.com, liaohua4@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2025 10:45:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251129104528.03aca5d3@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251129090813.GK3538@ZenIV>

On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 09:08:13 +0000
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 29, 2025 at 12:08:17PM +0800, Xie Yuanbin wrote:
> 
> > I think the `user_mode(regs)` check is necessary because the label
> > no_context actually jumps to __do_kernel_fault(), whereas page fault
> > from user mode should jump to `__do_user_fault()`.
> > 
> > Alternatively, we would need to change `goto no_context` to
> > `goto bad_area`. Or perhaps I misunderstood something, please point it out.  
> 
> FWIW, goto bad_area has an obvious problem: uses of 'fault' value, which
> contains garbage.
> 
> The cause of problem is the heuristics in get_mmap_lock_carefully():
> 	if (regs && !user_mode(regs)) {
> 		unsigned long ip = exception_ip(regs);
> 		if (!search_exception_tables(ip))
> 			return false;
> 	}
> trylock has failed and we are trying to decide whether it's safe to block.
> The assumption (inherited from old logics in assorted page fault handlers)
> is "by that point we know that fault in kernel mode is either an oops
> or #PF on uaccess; in the latter case we should be OK with locking mm,
> in the former we should just get to oopsing without risking deadlocks".
> 
> load_unaligned_zeropad() is where that assumption breaks - there is
> an exception handler and it's not an uaccess attempt; the address is
> not going to match any VMA and we really don't want to do anything
> blocking.

Doesn't that also affect code that (ab)uses get_user() for kernel addresss?
For x86 even __get_kernel_nofault() does that.
In that case it hits a normal 'user fault' exception table entry rather
a 'special' one that could be marked as such.

> 
> Note that VMA lookup will return NULL there anyway - there won't be a VMA
> for that address.  What we get is exactly the same thing we'd get from
> do_bad_area(), whether we get a kernel or userland insn faulting.
> 
> The minimal fix would be something like
> 	if (unlikely(addr >= TASK_SIZE) && !(flags & FAULT_FLAG_USER))
> 		goto no_context;

Is there an issue with TASK_SIZE being process dependant?
Don't you want 'the bottom of kernel addresses' not 'the top of the current process'.

	David

> 
> right before
> 	if (!(flags & FAULT_FLAG_USER))
> 		goto lock_mmap;
> 
> in do_page_fault().  Alternatively,
> 	if (unlikely(addr >= TASK_SIZE)) {
> 		do_bad_area(addr, fsr, regs);
> 		return 0;
> 	}
> or
> 	if (unlikely(addr >= TASK_SIZE)) {
> 		fault = 0;
> 		code = SEGV_MAPERR;
> 		goto bad_area;
> 	}
> at the same place.  Incidentally, making do_bad_area() return 0 would
> seem to make all callers happier...
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-29 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-26  9:05 [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Zizhi Wo
2025-11-26 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH] vfs: Fix might sleep in load_unaligned_zeropad() with rcu read lock held Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-26 18:10   ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 18:48     ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 19:05       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 19:26         ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 19:51           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 20:02             ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 22:25               ` david laight
2025-11-26 23:51                 ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 23:31               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-27  3:03                 ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-27  7:20                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-27 11:20                     ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-28  1:39           ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-26 20:42   ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 10:27 ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Zizhi Wo
2025-11-26 21:12   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-27 10:27     ` Will Deacon
2025-11-27 10:57     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-28 17:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-29  1:01         ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  1:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-29  4:08             ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29  9:08               ` Al Viro
2025-11-29  9:25                 ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29  9:44                   ` Al Viro
2025-11-29 10:05                     ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29 10:45                 ` david laight [this message]
2025-11-29  8:54             ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:08             ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  2:18         ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-01 13:28         ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Will Deacon
2025-12-02 12:43         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-12-02 13:02           ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-02 22:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-12-03  1:48             ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-05 12:08               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 18:55 ` Al Viro
2025-11-27  2:24   ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  3:37     ` Al Viro
2025-11-30  3:01       ` [RFC][alpha] saner vmalloc handling (was Re: [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context) Al Viro
2025-11-30 11:32         ` david laight
2025-11-30 16:43           ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 18:14             ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-11-30 19:03             ` david laight
2025-11-30 20:31               ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 20:32                 ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 22:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-30 23:37           ` Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:03       ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Zizhi Wo
2025-11-27 12:59 ` Will Deacon
2025-11-28  1:17   ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28  1:18     ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28  1:39       ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28 12:25         ` Will Deacon
2025-11-29  1:02           ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  3:55             ` Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:38               ` Zizhi Wo

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