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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Xie Yuanbin <xieyuanbin1@huawei.com>,
	brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, will@kernel.org,
	nico@fluxnic.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org, hch@lst.de,
	jack@suse.com, wozizhi@huaweicloud.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	lilinjie8@huawei.com, liaohua4@huawei.com,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, pangliyuan1@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] vfs: Fix might sleep in load_unaligned_zeropad() with rcu read lock held
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 20:02:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251126200221.GE3538@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aSdaWjgqP4IVivlN@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 07:51:54PM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:

> I don't understand how that helps. Wasn't the report that the filename
> crosses a page boundary in userspace, but the following page is
> inaccessible which causes a fault to be taken (as it always would do).
> Thus, wouldn't "addr" be a userspace address (that the kernel is
> accessing) and thus be below TASK_SIZE ?
> 
> I'm also confused - if we can't take a fault and handle it while
> reading the filename from userspace, how are pages that have been
> swapped out or evicted from the page cache read back in from storage
> which invariably results in sleeping - which we can't do here because
> of the RCU context (not that I've ever understood RCU, which is why
> I've always referred those bugs to Paul.)

No, the filename is already copied in kernel space *and* it's long enough
to end right next to the end of page.  There's NUL before the end of page,
at that, with '/' a couple of bytes prior.  We attempt to save on memory
accesses, doing word-by-word fetches, starting from the beginning of
component.  We *will* detect NUL and ignore all subsequent bytes; the
problem is that the last 3 bytes of page might be '/', 'x' and '\0'.
We call load_unaligned_zeropad() on page + PAGE_SIZE - 2.  And get
a fetch that spans the end of page.

We don't care what's in the next page, if there is one mapped there
to start with.  If there's nothing mapped, we want zeroes read from
it, but all we really care about is having the bytes within *our*
page read correctly - and no oops happening, obviously.

That fault is an extremely cold case on a fairly hot path.  We don't
want to mess with disabling pagefaults, etc. - not for the sake
of that.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-26 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-26  9:05 [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Zizhi Wo
2025-11-26 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH] vfs: Fix might sleep in load_unaligned_zeropad() with rcu read lock held Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-26 18:10   ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 18:48     ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 19:05       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 19:26         ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 19:51           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 20:02             ` Al Viro [this message]
2025-11-26 22:25               ` david laight
2025-11-26 23:51                 ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 23:31               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-27  3:03                 ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-27  7:20                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-27 11:20                     ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-28  1:39           ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-26 20:42   ` Al Viro
2025-11-26 10:27 ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Zizhi Wo
2025-11-26 21:12   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-27 10:27     ` Will Deacon
2025-11-27 10:57     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-28 17:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-29  1:01         ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  1:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-29  4:08             ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29  9:08               ` Al Viro
2025-11-29  9:25                 ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29  9:44                   ` Al Viro
2025-11-29 10:05                     ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-11-29 10:45                 ` david laight
2025-11-29  8:54             ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:08             ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  2:18         ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-01 13:28         ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Will Deacon
2025-12-02 12:43         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-12-02 13:02           ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-02 22:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-12-03  1:48             ` Xie Yuanbin
2025-12-05 12:08               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-26 18:55 ` Al Viro
2025-11-27  2:24   ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  3:37     ` Al Viro
2025-11-30  3:01       ` [RFC][alpha] saner vmalloc handling (was Re: [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context) Al Viro
2025-11-30 11:32         ` david laight
2025-11-30 16:43           ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 18:14             ` Magnus Lindholm
2025-11-30 19:03             ` david laight
2025-11-30 20:31               ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 20:32                 ` Al Viro
2025-11-30 22:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-30 23:37           ` Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:03       ` [Bug report] hash_name() may cross page boundary and trigger sleep in RCU context Zizhi Wo
2025-11-27 12:59 ` Will Deacon
2025-11-28  1:17   ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28  1:18     ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28  1:39       ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-28 12:25         ` Will Deacon
2025-11-29  1:02           ` Zizhi Wo
2025-11-29  3:55             ` Al Viro
2025-12-01  2:38               ` Zizhi Wo

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