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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 39/44] mm: use min() instead of min_t()
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2025 09:59:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251120095946.2da34be9@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7430fd6f-ead2-4ff8-8329-0c0875a39611@kernel.org>

On Thu, 20 Nov 2025 10:20:41 +0100
"David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org> wrote:

> On 11/19/25 23:41, david.laight.linux@gmail.com wrote:
> > From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
> > 
> > min_t(unsigned int, a, b) casts an 'unsigned long' to 'unsigned int'.
> > Use min(a, b) instead as it promotes any 'unsigned int' to 'unsigned long'
> > and so cannot discard significant bits.  
> 
> I thought using min() was frowned upon and we were supposed to use 
> min_t() instead to make it clear which type we want to use.

I'm not sure that was ever true.
min_t() is just an accident waiting to happen.
(and I found a few of them, the worst are in sched/fair.c)

Most of the min_t() are there because of the rather overzealous type
check that used to be in min().
But even then it would really be better to explicitly cast one of the
parameters to min(), so min_t(T, a, b) => min(a, (T)b).
Then it becomes rather more obvious that min_t(u8, x->m_u8, expr)
is going mask off the high bits of 'expr'.

> Do I misremember or have things changed?
> 
> Wasn't there a checkpatch warning that states exactly that?

There is one that suggests min_t() - it ought to be nuked.
The real fix is to backtrack the types so there isn't an error.
min_t() ought to be a 'last resort' and a single cast is better.

With the relaxed checks in min() most of the min_t() can just
be replaced by min(), even this is ok:
	int len = fun();
	if (len < 0)
		return;
	count = min(len, sizeof(T));

I did look at the history of min() and min_t().
IIRC some of the networking code had a real function min() with
'unsigned int' arguments.
This was moved to a common header, changed to a #define and had
a type added - so min(T, a, b).
Pretty much immediately that was renamed min_t() and min() added
that accepted any type - but checked the types of 'a' and 'b'
exactly matched.
Code was then changed (over the years) to use min(), but in many
cases the types didn't quite match - so min_t() was used a lot.

I keep spotting new commits that pass too small a type to min_t().
So this is the start of a '5 year' campaign to nuke min_t() (et al).

	David


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-20  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-19 22:40 [PATCH 00/44] Change a lot of min_t() that might mask high bits david.laight.linux
2025-11-19 22:41 ` [PATCH 30/44] fs: use min() or umin() instead of min_t() david.laight.linux
2025-11-25  9:06   ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-19 22:41 ` [PATCH 39/44] mm: use min() " david.laight.linux
2025-11-20  9:20   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-20  9:59     ` David Laight [this message]
2025-11-20 23:45       ` Eric Biggers
2025-11-21  8:27         ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-21  9:15         ` David Laight
2025-11-20 10:36   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-20 12:09     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-20 12:55     ` David Laight
2025-11-20 13:42       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-20 15:44         ` David Laight
2025-11-21  8:24           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-20  1:47 ` [PATCH 00/44] Change a lot of min_t() that might mask high bits Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-20  9:38 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-20 14:52 ` (subset) " Jens Axboe
2025-11-24  9:49 ` Herbert Xu

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